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[50.135.66.251]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a20sm7886448pfa.27.2016.08.23.13.54.51 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 23 Aug 2016 13:54:52 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_2172DF26-665A-49CA-87AF-7CF3F82AB80E"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail From: Kenneth Heutmaker X-Priority: 2 (High) In-Reply-To: <201608232012.12588.luke@dashjr.org> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 13:54:50 -0700 Message-Id: <7FF3E128-4D92-46CC-8FBA-9B9E9A9FC7AD@keepkey.com> References: <201608232012.12588.luke@dashjr.org> To: Luke Dashjr , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP Status updates (including to Active/Final Status) - BIP 39, BIP 43, BIP 44, BIP 67, BIP 111, BIP 125, BIP 130 X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 20:54:54 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_2172DF26-665A-49CA-87AF-7CF3F82AB80E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > Additionally, BIP 111 (NODE_BLOOM service bit) has been implemented in = Bitcoin > Core and derivatives; it is unclear if used by clients yet. Can = developers of > such clients please comment and let me know: 1) if their software = supports > this BIP already; 2) if not, do they intend to support it in the = future? > If and only if there are any clients using this service bit already, I = will > update BIP 111 to Final Status in 2 weeks also. Multibit is adding detection of the NODE_BLOOM bit in the next 2-3 = weeks. SPV is kinda broken if the wallet doesn=E2=80=99t do this detection. If = your wallet connects only to nodes that don=E2=80=99t support bloom = filtering, the wallet never gets updates. We have had a spike in users = reporting that their wallet isn't getting updated. To compound the = problem, they rescan the blockchain and lose all of their transaction = history. It has caused much panic among less technical users. We believe that failing to detect the NODE_BLOOM bit is the culprit, = although it is non-deterministic, so we aren't certain. I imagine that other SPV wallets are having similar issues. BIP 111 = really isn=E2=80=99t optional at this point, so it should be marked = final. --Apple-Mail=_2172DF26-665A-49CA-87AF-7CF3F82AB80E Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJXvLgbAAoJEJ+Dh7ZmDcsBXMEP/3moFPxpjepU3DA7gJX+/hD/ sXQ0SlbhQdJi8uf5YGzQxIk58BBlnbjDSM/FNSeDNg8e8nFXbmocnVYQq6zOFTVm 8vTI+cZIh/+RwsKVOEsJDDYLGx1k8vHbEc+hfTvwvp0FxyDfANk50jczUK82J7CK TKvvk9lrxi7oYzdbASzx5ZkOWM38V5Wy8k39/ByQA2O0d49DWIq34hGFR6ZZVzD6 CYWn8YVV3ImbgfdVnIpUjC1P1XT0FZkONCwvQ7hUH1j8GLvd3E7J9bSJ8FJZ8GrX J1IrLNNdoEn13CARsHvXmBlGBm7akWDJe1K6eNPek0RLXodOXjZBoeUUK5Rk9HBP rCLCaGFOiTZRh1jTFh/hFgeau2+M+bEp8qpSHwe1P02UvDyR/+GjD+5R7OXstEnz ltAXZ5KBbe5654M8I7fttaQN89hjLYqA/Pf8tpwY+ZydKPgUF3O8mfF1QbjD6+qK Fh6rAqtoiUarVnKRs3lLKdG5ITxmtrYDHzTsfkKQaoGjPTnZrT7wlFYWWvR23aqi KzIknC6qPsu3gPbLvAcJyXO8TYMhBzUf0MuF6lQOW9qeTK2vzzqvQZwOyyQHU0tr zhnPPJ9QF1+uzhJHDO4E67eenFieNj/hCbEOjkm7a877R0i127fCQf/M9jqxgmEW NHecbWVlTLFk3xc/NVdB =lCsc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_2172DF26-665A-49CA-87AF-7CF3F82AB80E--