Received: from sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.192] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-2.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1YL8N4-0003aq-8p for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 10:48:46 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.192.53 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.192.53; envelope-from=martin.habovstiak@gmail.com; helo=mail-qg0-f53.google.com; Received: from mail-qg0-f53.google.com ([209.85.192.53]) by sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1YL8N3-0006rh-Gw for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 10:48:46 +0000 Received: by mail-qg0-f53.google.com with SMTP id f51so26105114qge.12 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 02:48:40 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.101.151 with SMTP id u23mr49236563qge.2.1423565319944; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 02:48:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.19.18 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 02:48:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 11:48:39 +0100 Message-ID: From: =?UTF-8?B?TeKStnJ0aW4gSOKStmJv4pOLxaF0aWFr?= To: Natanael Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (martin.habovstiak[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1YL8N3-0006rh-Gw Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Standardizing automatic pre-negotiation of transaction terms with BIP70? (Emulating Amazon one-click purchase at all merchants) X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 10:48:46 -0000 I still don't understand. The website can have this information available. This is exactly what e-bay does - it displays shipping information to my country before I do anything. What's the problem? Also with other stuff, website can do it and browser extension can do it too without messing with Bitcoin. 2015-02-10 11:41 GMT+01:00 Natanael : > Den 10 feb 2015 11:34 skrev "M=E2=92=B6rtin H=E2=92=B6bo=E2=93=8B=C5=A1ti= ak" > : >> >> Why would anyone want to do anything about payment before choosing >> what he wants to buy and for what price? I've never used Amazon but >> isn't filling a form with shipping information enough? > > That's not what this is about. > > BIP70 isn't just payment, it is about communication the terms of the sale= . > > Let's say you're visiting an international webshop. But they don't ship t= o > your country. Wouldn't you want to know that before your start filling th= e > cart? With this, your wallet / browser extension could tell you right awa= y > that you can't shop there. No time wasted! > > That's just one requirement of many where you would benefit from being to= ld > right away if it is acceptable for both parties or not.