Return-Path: <monarch@cock.li> Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DDD861071 for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Tue, 1 Sep 2015 11:20:40 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from cock.li (cock.li [176.9.0.140]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 214DD13A for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Tue, 1 Sep 2015 11:20:39 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2015 11:20:37 +0000 From: Monarch <monarch@cock.li> To: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org In-Reply-To: <CAC0TF=mL1RpN5Gt75mYrVppe4gqUaK9VTHFR9uZq8N5FXv-nTQ@mail.gmail.com> References: <602b978abcedd92fbed85f305d9d7bfe@cock.li> <55E4B8C9.5030606@openbitcoinprivacyproject.org> <e786da226b8e9cfaad335454b299ffd5@cock.li> <CAJfRnm4kwHkBLUUOmfzViUwsdAf3LYSTruvHw9+-RbgxSMHLRg@mail.gmail.com> <5A3D7824-F1E3-421B-A32A-0EF21DD215BD@gmx.com> <55E4E7AA.6010905@sky-ip.org> <CC252814-9AF6-4A28-926E-EE83C517E440@gmx.com> <CALqxMTFKDmQnFZimJPttyDdyOHbc_ffs-vV7XDwwJLLu=UPVfA@mail.gmail.com> <CAC0TF=mL1RpN5Gt75mYrVppe4gqUaK9VTHFR9uZq8N5FXv-nTQ@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <e5cb7483234a5b402a47e74fd673906d@cock.li> X-Sender: monarch@cock.li User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.9.5 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Let's kill Bitcoin Core and allow the green shoots of a garden of new implementations to grow from its fertile ashes X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion <bitcoin-dev.lists.linuxfoundation.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/options/bitcoin-dev>, <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/> List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev>, <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2015 11:20:41 -0000 On 2015-09-01 10:16, Chris D'Costa via bitcoin-dev wrote: > However, I fully agree with Adam that livenet is probably not the > place to play this game, and I'm also not convinced that testnet is > either. > > I often wondered if there is any appetite for a no-holds-barred, > anything goes, bitcoin fork that would allow for the kind of valuable > experimentation that Peter R is suggesting? This is a different > concept than an alt-coin because it would be undoubtedly unstable > until consensus is reached - and that is the whole idea. It hopefully > would inform future decisions about what gets rolled into Core. One > problem I see with doing this, is the lack of incentive. > You are describing the essence of sidechains. You might want to check out Elements Alpha, which has some outrageous experimental changes to transaction structure. It's a technical Bitcoin sandbox which doesn't require launching yet another altcoin.