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We=E2=80= =99re=20 working on building a zk light client for the protocol using RISC0 zkVM[0]= =20 and the protocol uses client-side validation. Leveraging Bitcoin & ZK, it= =20 seems we could finally get decentralized PKI that works well and=20 lightweight enough to verify by end-users. What makes Spaces scalable is that it introduces a concept of =E2=80=9Csubs= paces=E2=80=9D=20 which are off-chain entities that have great autonomy. It is not exactly=20 like zk-rollups as the data itself is off-chain - although it may not=20 exactly fit into =E2=80=9Cvalidium=E2=80=9D either as data availability its= elf is not a=20 major issue. Users hold their own inclusion proofs. The commitments posted= =20 on-chain have a lifetime during which they=E2=80=99re able to transact on-c= hain and=20 off-chain. We=E2=80=99re at an early stage and welcome your feedback. For more technic= al=20 details: https://spacesprotocol.org [0] https://dev.risczero.com/proof-system-in-detail.pdf --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Bitcoin Development Mailing List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to bitcoindev+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/= bitcoindev/e748ac07-1aca-4f1e-ad3e-aa57e4d6dc05n%40googlegroups.com. ------=_Part_219_1200458138.1708546280908 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I=E2=80=99d like to discuss a project we=E2=80=99re developing called Space= s, for creating a scalable & permissionless ~250KB Bitcoin Certificate = Authority. We=E2=80=99re working on building a zk light client for the prot= ocol using RISC0 zkVM[0] and the protocol uses client-side validation. Leve= raging Bitcoin & ZK, it seems we could finally get decentralized PKI th= at works well and lightweight enough to verify by end-users.

Wha= t makes Spaces scalable is that it introduces a concept of =E2=80=9Csubspac= es=E2=80=9D which are off-chain entities that have great autonomy. It is no= t exactly like zk-rollups as the data itself is off-chain - although it may= not exactly fit into =E2=80=9Cvalidium=E2=80=9D either as data availabilit= y itself is not a major issue. Users hold their own inclusion proofs. The c= ommitments posted on-chain have a lifetime during which they=E2=80=99re abl= e to transact on-chain and off-chain.

We=E2=80=99re at an early = stage and welcome your feedback. For more technical details:

https://spacesprotocol.org

[0] http= s://dev.risczero.com/proof-system-in-detail.pdf

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