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Subject: [bitcoin-dev] BIP-119 CTV Meeting #4 Draft Agenda for Tuesday
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Hi All,

Apologies for the late posting of the agenda. The 4th CTV meeting will be
held tomorrow at 12:00 PT in ##ctv-bip-review in Libera.chat.

Tomorrow the conversation will be slightly more tutorial focused. If you
have time in advance of the meeting, it might be good to do some of this in
advance.

1) Discussion: What is the goal of Signet? (20 minutes)
    - Do we have a "decision function" of observations from a test network?
    - What applications should be prototyped/fleshed out?
    - What level of fleshed out matters?
    - Should we add other experiments in the mix on this net, like
APO/Sponsors?
    - Should we get e.g. lightning working on this signet?
2) Connecting to CTV Signet Tutorial (10 mins)

We'll make sure everyone who wants to be on it is on it & debug any issues.

*Ahead of Meeting: Build this
branch https://github.com/JeremyRubin/bitcoin/tree/checktemplateverify-signet-23.0-alpha
<https://github.com/JeremyRubin/bitcoin/tree/checktemplateverify-signet-23.0-alpha>*

Connect to:
```
[signet]
signetchallenge=512102946e8ba8eca597194e7ed90377d9bbebc5d17a9609ab3e35e706612ee882759351ae
addnode=50.18.75.225
```

3) Receiving Coins / Sending Coins (5 mins)
There's now a faucet for this signet: https://faucet.ctvsignet.com
And also an explorer: https://explorer.ctvsignet.com

4) Sapio tutorial (25 minutes)

*Ahead of meeting, if you have time: skim https://learn.sapio-lang.org
<https://learn.sapio-lang.org> & download/build the sapio cli & plugin
examples*

We'll try to get everyone building and sending a basic application (e.g.
congestion control tree or vault) on the signet (instructions to be posted
before meeting).

We won't use Sapio Studio, just the Sapio CLI.

5) Sapio Q&A (30 mins)

After some experience playing with Sapio, more general discussion about the
project and what it may accomplish

6) General Discussion (30 minutes)


Best,

Jeremy

--
@JeremyRubin <https://twitter.com/JeremyRubin>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,he=
lvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">Hi All,</div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font=
-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">Apologies=
 for the late posting of the agenda. The 4th CTV meeting will be held tomor=
row at 12:00 PT in ##ctv-bip-review in Libera.chat.</div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;=
color:#000000"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:=
arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">Tomorrow the conv=
ersation will be slightly more tutorial focused. If you have time in advanc=
e=C2=A0of the meeting, it might be good to do some of this in advance.</div=
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if;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" st=
yle=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000=
"><div class=3D"gmail_default">1) Discussion: What is the goal of Signet? (=
20 minutes)</div><div class=3D"gmail_default">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 - Do we have a =
&quot;decision function&quot; of observations from a test network?</div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 - What applications should be proto=
typed/fleshed out?</div><div class=3D"gmail_default">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 - What l=
evel of fleshed out matters?</div><div class=3D"gmail_default">=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 - Should we add other experiments in the mix on this net, like APO/Spon=
sors?</div><div class=3D"gmail_default">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 - Should we get e.g. =
lightning working on this signet?</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" s=
tyle=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#00000=
0">2) Connecting to CTV Signet Tutorial (10 mins)</div><div class=3D"gmail_=
default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;co=
lor:#000000"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:ar=
ial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">We&#39;ll make sure=
 everyone who wants to be on it is on it &amp; debug any issues.</div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;fon=
t-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D=
"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><b>A=
head of Meeting: Build this branch=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://github.com/Jerem=
yRubin/bitcoin/tree/checktemplateverify-signet-23.0-alpha" target=3D"_blank=
">https://github.com/JeremyRubin/bitcoin/tree/checktemplateverify-signet-23=
.0-alpha</a></b></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:ari=
al,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:small;color:#000000">Connect to:</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">`=
``<br>[signet]<br>signetchallenge=3D512102946e8ba8eca597194e7ed90377d9bbebc=
5d17a9609ab3e35e706612ee882759351ae<br>addnode=3D50.18.75.225</div><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-s=
ize:small;color:#000000">```<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D=
"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br>=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,san=
s-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">3) Receiving=C2=A0Coins / Sending Co=
ins (5 mins)</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,h=
elvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><div class=3D"gmail_defa=
ult">There&#39;s now a faucet for this signet:=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://fauc=
et.ctvsignet.com" target=3D"_blank">https://faucet.ctvsignet.com</a><br></d=
iv>And also an explorer:=C2=A0<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" href=3D"https:=
//explorer.ctvsignet.com/" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family:arial;fon=
t-size:14px;line-height:normal">https://explorer.ctvsignet.com</a><br class=
=3D"gmail-Apple-interchange-newline"></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" sty=
le=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"=
><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetic=
a,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">4) Sapio tutorial (25 minutes)<=
/div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans=
-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default=
" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#00=
0000"><b>Ahead of meeting, if you have time: skim <a href=3D"https://learn.=
sapio-lang.org">https://learn.sapio-lang.org</a> &amp; download/build the s=
apio cli &amp; plugin examples</b></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><=
br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,=
sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">We&#39;ll try to get everyone bui=
lding and sending a basic application (e.g. congestion control tree or vaul=
t) on the signet (instructions to be posted before meeting).</div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-si=
ze:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">We won&#=
39;t use Sapio Studio, just the Sapio=C2=A0CLI.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gm=
ail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:smal=
l;color:#000000"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-famil=
y:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">5) Sapio Q&amp;=
A (30 mins)</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,he=
lvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class=3D"g=
mail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:sma=
ll;color:#000000">After some experience playing with Sapio, more general di=
scussion about the project and what it may accomplish</div><div class=3D"gm=
ail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:smal=
l;color:#000000"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-famil=
y:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">6) General Disc=
ussion (30 minutes)</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:=
arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-=
size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"f=
ont-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">Best,<=
/div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans=
-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default=
" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#00=
0000">Jeremy</div><br clear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_si=
gnature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">--<br><a href=
=3D"https://twitter.com/JeremyRubin" target=3D"_blank">@JeremyRubin</a><br>=
</div></div></div></div>

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