Received: from sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.191] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-1.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from <jan.moller@gmail.com>) id 1WceAP-0004L8-56 for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 17:07:33 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.192.45 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.192.45; envelope-from=jan.moller@gmail.com; helo=mail-qg0-f45.google.com; Received: from mail-qg0-f45.google.com ([209.85.192.45]) by sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1WceAL-0006BP-O9 for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 17:07:33 +0000 Received: by mail-qg0-f45.google.com with SMTP id a108so5677880qge.18 for <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 10:07:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.114.130 with SMTP id e2mr49411722qaq.53.1398186444182; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 10:07:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.24.208 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 10:07:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <11528A13-5D66-4D2B-BEE0-1C26F9987BC8@bitsofproof.com> References: <CAC7yFxSE8-TWPN-kuFiqdPKMDuprbiVJi7-z-ym+AUyA_f-xJw@mail.gmail.com> <CABh=4qNaJht-MnnjEguZ=UOuXN3uQ-s4-dkDUVErbHj6W44J_g@mail.gmail.com> <1927948.OEZHQcsQ9n@crushinator> <2025496.b5Y3n7qx8B@crushinator> <1582E990-4E14-4EF7-9C9C-AA505B815104@bitsofproof.com> <53568B87.8040009@monetize.io> <11528A13-5D66-4D2B-BEE0-1C26F9987BC8@bitsofproof.com> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 19:07:24 +0200 Message-ID: <CABh=4qPsR1YbhJDeAPjr37Zjqawo9ZFAH43scFnEg7p9a7EkeQ@mail.gmail.com> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jan_M=C3=B8ller?= <jan.moller@gmail.com> To: Tamas Blummer <tamas@bitsofproof.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bea44cc55ff4c04f7a4a6a4 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. 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On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Tamas Blummer <tamas@bitsofproof.com>wrote: > I use several test chains while testing my software, the official test > net, a standalone net in house and even chains only created on the fly for > unit tests. I found no use of distinguishing serialization of keys while > using any of them. > > If you have some deep insights about why this is needed share it, as I am > not goint to guess your valuable thoughts. > > Regards, > > Tamas Blummer > http://bitsofproof.com > > On 22.04.2014, at 17:32, Mark Friedenbach <mark@monetize.io> wrote: > > Testnet vs mainnet is quite a separate issue than bitcoin vs altcoin. > Unfortunately few of the alts ever figured this out. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Start Your Social Network Today - Download eXo Platform > Build your Enterprise Intranet with eXo Platform Software > Java Based Open Source Intranet - Social, Extensible, Cloud Ready > Get Started Now And Turn Your Intranet Into A Collaboration Platform > http://p.sf.net/sfu/ExoPlatform > _______________________________________________ > Bitcoin-development mailing list > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development > > --047d7bea44cc55ff4c04f7a4a6a4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">Treating testnet differently is quite the norm, we have th= at in BIP 32, 38, 70, SIPA private keys (no BIP for that I guess), bitcoin = addresses etc. At the same time none of them define values for alt coins as= far as I recall.</div> <div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 2= 2, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Tamas Blummer <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:t= amas@bitsofproof.com" target=3D"_blank">tamas@bitsofproof.com</a>></span= > wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">I use se= veral test chains while testing my software, the official test net, a stand= alone net in house and even chains only created on the fly for unit tests. = I found no use of distinguishing serialization of keys while using any of t= hem.<div> <div><div><br></div><div>If you have some deep insights about why this is n= eeded share it, as I am not goint to guess your valuable thoughts.</div><di= v class=3D""><div><br style=3D"text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-v= ariant:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;= line-height:normal;text-transform:none;font-size:12px;white-space:normal;fo= nt-family:Helvetica;word-spacing:0px"> <span style=3D"text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal;te= xt-align:-webkit-auto;font-style:normal;display:inline!important;font-weigh= t:normal;float:none;line-height:normal;text-transform:none;font-size:12px;w= hite-space:normal;font-family:Helvetica;word-spacing:0px">Regards,</span></= div> <div><br style=3D"text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal= ;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;line-height:n= ormal;text-transform:none;font-size:12px;white-space:normal;font-family:Hel= vetica;word-spacing:0px"> <span style=3D"text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal;te= xt-align:-webkit-auto;font-style:normal;display:inline!important;font-weigh= t:normal;float:none;line-height:normal;text-transform:none;font-size:12px;w= hite-space:normal;font-family:Helvetica;word-spacing:0px">Tamas Blummer</sp= an><span style=3D"text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal= ;text-align:start;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;line-height:normal;t= ext-transform:none;font-size:12px;white-space:normal;font-family:Helvetica;= word-spacing:0px"><br style=3D"text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-v= ariant:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;= line-height:normal;text-transform:none;font-size:12px;white-space:normal;fo= nt-family:Helvetica;word-spacing:0px"> <span style=3D"text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal;te= xt-align:-webkit-auto;font-style:normal;display:inline!important;font-weigh= t:normal;float:none;line-height:normal;text-transform:none;font-size:12px;w= hite-space:normal;font-family:Helvetica;word-spacing:0px"><a href=3D"http:/= /bitsofproof.com" target=3D"_blank">http://bitsofproof.com</a></span> </span></div> <br></div><div class=3D""><div><div>On <a href=3D"tel:22.04.2014" value=3D"= +4522042014" target=3D"_blank">22.04.2014</a>, at 17:32, Mark Friedenbach &= lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mark@monetize.io" target=3D"_blank">mark@monetize.io</= a>> wrote:</div> <br><blockquote type=3D"cite">Testnet vs mainnet is quite a separate issue = than bitcoin vs altcoin.<br>Unfortunately few of the alts ever figured this= out.<br></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div><br>---------------= ---------------------------------------------------------------<br> Start Your Social Network Today - Download eXo Platform<br> Build your Enterprise Intranet with eXo Platform Software<br> Java Based Open Source Intranet - Social, Extensible, Cloud Ready<br> Get Started Now And Turn Your Intranet Into A Collaboration Platform<br> <a href=3D"http://p.sf.net/sfu/ExoPlatform" target=3D"_blank">http://p.sf.n= et/sfu/ExoPlatform</a><br>_______________________________________________<b= r> Bitcoin-development mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net">Bitcoin-develo= pment@lists.sourceforge.net</a><br> <a href=3D"https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development= " target=3D"_blank">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-de= velopment</a><br> <br></blockquote></div><br></div> --047d7bea44cc55ff4c04f7a4a6a4--