Received: from sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.191] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-3.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1WNTyv-0000sj-74 for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 11 Mar 2014 21:13:01 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of petertodd.org designates 62.13.149.58 as permitted sender) client-ip=62.13.149.58; envelope-from=pete@petertodd.org; helo=outmail149058.authsmtp.co.uk; Received: from outmail149058.authsmtp.co.uk ([62.13.149.58]) by sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) id 1WNTyt-0002j1-MZ for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 11 Mar 2014 21:13:01 +0000 Received: from mail-c235.authsmtp.com (mail-c235.authsmtp.com [62.13.128.235]) by punt14.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id s2BLCmLF078342; Tue, 11 Mar 2014 21:12:48 GMT Received: from savin (76-10-178-109.dsl.teksavvy.com [76.10.178.109]) (authenticated bits=128) by mail.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/) with ESMTP id s2BLChfj039551 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 11 Mar 2014 21:12:45 GMT Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 17:12:45 -0400 From: Peter Todd To: Jeff Garzik Message-ID: <20140311211245.GA31523@savin> References: <531DFDF8.80008@gmail.com> <531E52FE.5090107@jerviss.org> <531E5454.1030601@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Server-Quench: e498cf9e-a961-11e3-b802-002590a15da7 X-AuthReport-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCd2Yg0TA1ZNQRgX IjsJECJaVQIpKltL GxAVKBZePFsRUQkR bgdMdwMUFVQGAgsB AmIbWVVeUV97XWU7 bAxPbAVDY01GQQRq WVdMSlVNFUsrA259 dUZICBlxfgBDeTBx Zk5qXj4OWE1yJhB0 F1MFHGsHeGZhPWMC AkhYdR5UcAFPdx8U a1UrBXRDAzANdhES HhM4ODE3eDlSNilR RRkIIFQOdA4uAzog RgsDEjNnBUQUQig1 M1Q+MFkAG00WNhJa X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633532353630.1023:706 X-AuthFastPath: 0 (Was 255) X-AuthSMTP-Origin: 76.10.178.109/587 X-AuthVirus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record X-Headers-End: 1WNTyt-0002j1-MZ Cc: kjj , Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Multisign payment protocol? X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 21:13:01 -0000 --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 10:13:48AM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote: > Sure, but I don't see wallets being able to _assume_ _remote_ parties > have an HD wallet for a long, long time. Interoperability common > sense implies the environment will be heterogenous, perhaps forever, > invalidating assume-each-party-uses-HD logic. Maybe never: you can implement a wallet that uses stealth addresses for change, and doing appears to be advantageous in some scenarious with regard to privacy. --=20 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org 00000000000000a636d318d7384d2891c788af10e50b8d1e27b64df847f9117b --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) iQGrBAEBCACVBQJTH3xHXhSAAAAAABUAQGJsb2NraGFzaEBiaXRjb2luLm9yZzAw MDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwYTYzNmQzMThkNzM4NGQyODkxYzc4OGFmMTBlNTBiOGQxZTI3 YjY0ZGY4NDdmOTExN2IvFIAAAAAAFQARcGthLWFkZHJlc3NAZ251cGcub3JncGV0 ZUBwZXRlcnRvZC5vcmcACgkQJIFAPaXwkft/qwgAsKqPOW67kYGEMyOwXl3cteTP jq+GPpnjazwB9M0FL1NqVMbCLd8YsWgTayKeS4+YdenAl3ty5opk6vXqyu8BiKQM ftDhYjoHTqjtc+kVTGp2nZtEBL1cc+cVSDi/yH6jre4RhMjVugZfu8eME7q6eK49 T9/YmVWZ99tgWnln0HaHHwpxcRfWQnwk4Rvr5eBn5r6ZX6pUr6rpdgtsfIMXGx0h IA13E+BTANGKgbzB4RhSMkeXRR1edXQB8RfPsh1nfYIMTxPLrzBv99I71XVtS4j5 qFyfA92YlTAlX+idud/aIVvLz+30yv7k/aTm84M7pXkmlEaCdaNvzEX4HxfKRA== =BTFY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C--