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To: Eric Lombrozo <elombrozo@gmail.com>
Cc: "bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
	<bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin Core and hard forks
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There really isn't any need for a 3rd party here. Those "services" can just b=
e the miners themselves.


jp

> On Jul 24, 2015, at 8:56 AM, Eric Lombrozo <elombrozo@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
>=20
>> On Jul 23, 2015, at 5:45 PM, Jean-Paul Kogelman <jeanpaulkogelman@me.com>=
 wrote:
>>=20
>> Quality of service as in:
>>=20
>>> X satoshi / kb =3D included in block currently worked on;
>>=20
>>> Y satoshi / kb =3D included in next block;
>>=20
>>> Z satoshi / kb =3D included in block after that, etc.
>>=20
>> Block count starts when transaction is first seen. Miners can set X, Y, Z=
.
>>=20
>> Market develops when miners start setting different values and adding mor=
e transactions to blocks as opposed to other miners with higher settings.
>>=20
>> It basically comes down to the miners themselves if they want a healthy f=
ee market. If they stick to their guns, their influence on the fees will be p=
roportional to their hashing power.
>>=20
>> jp
>=20
>=20
> The scheme I=A1=AFve been considering is the use of services (separate fro=
m miners) that guarantee inclusion for you for some predetermined price and t=
hen do the bidding on your behalf. Via contracts you can guarantee you get i=
ncluded within a certain number of blocks or you receive a full refund=A1=AD=
or even possibly receive compensation for failure to deliver.