Delivery-date: Mon, 09 Dec 2024 05:37:41 -0800 Received: from mail-yb1-f186.google.com ([209.85.219.186]) by mail.fairlystable.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1tKdxE-0003Sb-BR for bitcoindev@gnusha.org; Mon, 09 Dec 2024 05:37:41 -0800 Received: by mail-yb1-f186.google.com with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-e3a4f3fb24csf655306276.2 for ; Mon, 09 Dec 2024 05:37:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20230601; t=1733751454; x=1734356254; darn=gnusha.org; h=list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-help:list-post :list-id:mailing-list:precedence:x-original-sender:mime-version :subject:message-id:to:from:date:sender:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=rmZq9LXVSF26IO+Gz5fiYw0/m1qS5tR+5xZEHbsfxxs=; b=izYTZWI0MhGJr4ORlNdEKNTFFd4SFpUqqPZJRb1SPufbFYzrwutXEysp6DySa17r6f XjbdjOOPxlZsbXcL7xaMEMNNOBsg9czfLMAU9dyvV8qgI884LDWs6hme6Z/qIsDSJ7AG MT+oMkrjdcae7Rb8XNo46vtoQBt9WH3dOKMafUriDURbD4DOy9jBmjOH7lSXG6eEoK5x 42/LAb+yjOxz4iVuN1attEpbwVpAonOJl15/fvF19pFdWcAURs8Xk0MDXH34WwVm6yuq rZ3o+Fy1ZZCnYs3Klu+SQjX0n1u4efVJ9Oz6TLA4rYElxRyS0qAulBcF4THTOh/MAgEO 5lqQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups-com.20230601.gappssmtp.com; s=20230601; t=1733751454; x=1734356254; darn=gnusha.org; h=list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-help:list-post :list-id:mailing-list:precedence:x-original-sender:mime-version :subject:message-id:to:from:date:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=rmZq9LXVSF26IO+Gz5fiYw0/m1qS5tR+5xZEHbsfxxs=; b=hOrAyXjgqyvXe/cYH0MwmHS79dtFD5C9JV0w+2xOjD1TRgr4EIvnCOJlZeugYriG0O FoN1Ibt+U9jtgH4PKHa/t6eR5QsfUEbgywGnvqSZaocu5H3HEbCaCxH76fOvOqsXcfWB Bo85o2RpwnRWtTZmpZDt4wW71wdDWy1OALSsOY6xXEzaI9CIriBFiI3EkX0w4lpygrjq zZ/FQHRkqqbAVlZXRo2tOn7jPP72YLFaQNGayBybz3v0IyP2XlZta2bz6svYKbwuUC5H iyof5xkTaSm6YT+5Mfm1nsoFv6wnpfSIUm/sLXW5OiH+Pa3voC2kemDcNqlGGmwljHYu 3xCw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1733751454; x=1734356254; h=list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-help:list-post :list-id:mailing-list:precedence:x-original-sender:mime-version :subject:message-id:to:from:date:x-beenthere:x-gm-message-state :sender:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=rmZq9LXVSF26IO+Gz5fiYw0/m1qS5tR+5xZEHbsfxxs=; b=AKm6OWczlqmihIawLvOLf0cTfLvnydWbdLEVaVgrr4H23i4Rw0tY5qig7wAHSbY8aP Est2zHVXk/Z/08oT5000QtiACahvdrIwqR/eiY/M4Hp1BM6puk92Wq6atrMVklWtpa+7 lbsqOEzrFj97e9eT8lvM+kCy4jOCkW5srVYmGcgL2xr8hS02qXg1YKwY4d0x40mz9u9b CJAJYV/qmE8G1o1tEGyHUR+1Z9EdcQbb+jV2H1BlYyKmCmyBlSzguuykDodFwBXxW6pZ JxSIpLeYZ75avfxo5qbD22KmFmeRNJYiO/K2Vl4gH+fEaBW3dmUMfWx0s/LVOouLHtrm AR2g== Sender: bitcoindev@googlegroups.com X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCUYG8j52c/29aFB9s5CJDhu1990Vr+yXMbn77A+oYzhw+FFczfM1oZC1rGh3doEigKgcffiE16csTCD@gnusha.org X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yw4iZo586v+ffmifsYXKMEL25ldCN3mwpWV6ibG/2z6c/HIjbFa ooqnfbJ6xwfibIaJbdN+SUxNkztcjbvrUe0DQyIYOJByQ4I0zJOs X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHp3Rz2zXoo6ywmbNPAvBH24+YotHjHRe307AxPctR/BKwWSh0gOz/PteE2OYCEHCva3Uhvhg== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6902:3005:b0:e39:8d87:f146 with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-e3a59afbfa4mr269397276.22.1733751453620; Mon, 09 Dec 2024 05:37:33 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: bitcoindev@googlegroups.com Received: by 2002:a25:adc9:0:b0:e30:84f1:999f with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-e39f1abbb3als2247932276.0.-pod-prod-02-us; Mon, 09 Dec 2024 05:37:30 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:a05:690c:2501:b0:6ef:94db:b208 with SMTP id 00721157ae682-6f022ed43eemr5164087b3.24.1733751449886; Mon, 09 Dec 2024 05:37:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 2002:a05:690c:80a:b0:6ef:9b37:85ef with SMTP id 00721157ae682-6efe40440e5ms7b3; Mon, 9 Dec 2024 05:27:56 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:a05:690c:360d:b0:6e3:fd6:6ccb with SMTP id 00721157ae682-6efe3bfae8dmr124700187b3.13.1733750875153; Mon, 09 Dec 2024 05:27:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2024 05:27:54 -0800 (PST) From: Weikeng Chen To: Bitcoin Development Mailing List Message-Id: Subject: [bitcoindev] Difficulty in emulating "weaker" OP_SUCCESS and why it should be a real opcode MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_219826_310777324.1733750874600" X-Original-Sender: weikeng.chen@l2iterative.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bitcoindev@googlegroups.com; contact bitcoindev+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 786775582512 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) ------=_Part_219826_310777324.1733750874600 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_219827_1494883412.1733750874600" ------=_Part_219827_1494883412.1733750874600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" When I am implementing fraud proofs in Bitcoin script, I find it useful to have an opcode "OP_SUCCESS" that will mark the execution to be successful without running the rest of the script, if this opcode is being executed. This is useful for writing code for fraud proofs such as BitVM, where the verifier wins if it finds one mismatch, and the verifier does not need to show the other mismatches. This OP_SUCCESS is weaker version of the OP_SUCCESSx in the Taproot upgrade, which marks the execution as successful for the mere presence of OP_SUCCESSx anywhere in the script. Rusty Russell in a 2023 article, "Covenants: Examining ScriptPubkeys in Bitcoin Script", also mentioned about the usefulness of such an opcode. Of course, this opcode can be emulated, and one can rewrite the existing script in a way to realize the same functionality without adding a new opcode to Bitcoin. The problem is that such rewriting is indeed fairly complicated. For example, say that we have the following program. ``` OP_NOP1 OP_IF OP_NOP2 OP_IF_SUCCESS OP_NOP3 OP_IF_SUCCESS OP_NOP4 OP_IF_SUCCESS OP_NOP5 OP_ENDIF OP_NOP6 ``` with OP_IF_SUCCESS short for "OP_IF OP_SUCCESS OP_ENDIF" The equivalent version without using new opcode is as follows (generated by computer, using a rewriting tool: https://github.com/Bitcoin-Wildlife-Sanctuary/fraud-proof-compiler) ``` OP_NOP1 OP_IF OP_NOP2 OP_IF 1 0 OP_ELSE OP_NOP3 OP_IF 1 0 OP_ELSE OP_NOP4 OP_IF 1 OP_ELSE OP_NOP5 0 0 0 OP_ENDIF OP_ENDIF OP_IF 1 OP_ENDIF OP_ENDIF OP_IF 1 OP_ENDIF OP_ELSE 0 OP_ENDIF OP_IF 1 OP_ELSE OP_NOP6 0 OP_ENDIF OP_IF OP_DEPTH 512 OP_GREATERTHANOREQUAL OP_IF OP_2DROP ... OP_2DROP (256 OP_2DROP) OP_ENDIF OP_DEPTH 256 OP_GREATERTHANOREQUAL OP_IF OP_2DROP ... OP_2DROP (128 OP_2DROP) OP_ENDIF OP_DEPTH 128 OP_GREATERTHANOREQUAL OP_IF OP_2DROP ... OP_2DROP (64 OP_2DROP) OP_ENDIF OP_DEPTH 64 OP_GREATERTHANOREQUAL OP_IF OP_2DROP ... OP_2DROP (32 OP_2DROP) OP_ENDIF OP_DEPTH 32 OP_GREATERTHANOREQUAL OP_IF OP_2DROP ... OP_2DROP (16 OP_2DROP) OP_ENDIF OP_DEPTH 16 OP_GREATERTHANOREQUAL OP_IF OP_2DROP ... OP_2DROP (8 OP_2DROP) OP_ENDIF OP_DEPTH 8 OP_GREATERTHANOREQUAL OP_IF OP_2DROP ... OP_2DROP (4 OP_2DROP) OP_ENDIF OP_DEPTH 4 OP_GREATERTHANOREQUAL OP_IF OP_2DROP ... OP_2DROP (2 OP_2DROP) OP_ENDIF OP_DEPTH 2 OP_GREATERTHANOREQUAL OP_IF OP_2DROP OP_ENDIF OP_DEPTH OP_IF OP_DROP OP_ENDIF OP_TRUE OP_ENDIF ``` The second part of the code is mainly a general-purpose and stack-size-independent method to remove all the stack elements in order to be standard. For this reason, it seems better to avoid the need for developers to "emulate" such a weak version of OP_SUCCESS but to actually implement an opcode for that. What do you think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Bitcoin Development Mailing List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bitcoindev+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/bitcoindev/ebd77d82-96ab-4530-909a-d085378b9868n%40googlegroups.com. ------=_Part_219827_1494883412.1733750874600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When I am implementing fraud proofs in Bitcoin script, I find it useful to = have an opcode "OP_SUCCESS" that will mark the execution to be successful w= ithout running the rest of the script, if this opcode is being executed. Th= is is useful for writing code for fraud proofs such as BitVM, where the ver= ifier wins if it finds one mismatch, and the verifier does not need to show= the other mismatches.

This OP_SUCCESS is weaker versi= on of the OP_SUCCESSx in the Taproot upgrade, which marks the execution as = successful for the mere presence of OP_SUCCESSx anywhere in the script.=C2= =A0Rusty Russell in a 2023 article, "Covenants: Examining ScriptPubkeys in = Bitcoin Script", also mentioned about the usefulness of such an opcode.=C2= =A0

Of course, this opcode can be emulated, and = one can rewrite the existing script in a way to realize the same functional= ity without adding a new opcode to Bitcoin.

The = problem is that such rewriting is indeed fairly complicated. For example, s= ay that we have the following program.

```
= OP_NOP1
OP_IF
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 OP_NOP2
=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0OP_IF= _SUCCESS
=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0OP_NOP3
=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0OP_IF_SUCC= ESS
=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0OP_NOP4
=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0OP_IF_SUCCESS=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0OP_NOP5
OP_ENDIF
OP_NOP6
```
with OP_IF_SUCCESS short for "OP_IF OP_SUCCESS OP_ENDIF"

=
The equivalent version without using new opcode is as follows (g= enerated by computer, using a rewriting tool: https://github.com/Bitcoin-Wi= ldlife-Sanctuary/fraud-proof-compiler)

```
=
OP_NOP1
OP_IF
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 OP_NOP2
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 OP_IF=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 1
=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2= =A0=C2=A00
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 OP_ELSE
=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 = =C2=A0=C2=A0OP_NOP3
=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0OP_IF
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 1
=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0
=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2= =A0=C2=A0OP_ELSE
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0OP_NOP4
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0OP_IF
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 = =C2=A0=C2=A01
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2= =A0OP_ELSE
=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0OP_NOP5
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A00
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A00
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A00
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0OP_ENDIF
=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2= =A0=C2=A0OP_ENDIF
=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0OP_IF 1 O= P_ENDIF
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 OP_ENDIF
=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0OP_IF 1 OP= _ENDIF
OP_ELSE
=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A00
OP_ENDIF
OP_IF
=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A01
OP_ELSE
=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0OP_NOP6
=C2= =A0 =C2=A0=C2=A00
OP_ENDIF
OP_IF
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 OP_DEPTH= 512 OP_GREATERTHANOREQUAL OP_IF
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 OP_2DROP = ... OP_2DROP (256 OP_2DROP)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 OP_ENDIF
=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 OP_DEPTH 256 OP_GREATERTHANOREQUAL OP_IF
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 OP_2DROP ... OP_2DROP (128 OP_2DROP)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 OP_ENDI= F
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 OP_DEPTH 128 OP_GREATERTHANOREQUAL OP_IF
=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 OP_2DROP ... OP_2DROP (64 OP_2DROP)
=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 OP_ENDIF
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 OP_DEPTH 64 OP_GREATERTHANOREQUAL OP_IF<= br />=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 OP_2DROP ... OP_2DROP (32 OP_2DROP)
<= div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 OP_ENDIF
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 OP_DEPTH 32 OP_GREATERTHANORE= QUAL OP_IF
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 OP_2DROP ... OP_2DROP (16 OP_2D= ROP)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 OP_ENDIF
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 OP_DEPTH 16 OP_GRE= ATERTHANOREQUAL OP_IF
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 OP_2DROP ... OP_2DRO= P (8 OP_2DROP)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 OP_ENDIF
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 OP_DEPTH= 8 OP_GREATERTHANOREQUAL OP_IF
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 OP_2DROP ..= . OP_2DROP (4 OP_2DROP)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 OP_ENDIF
=C2=A0 =C2=A0= OP_DEPTH 4 OP_GREATERTHANOREQUAL OP_IF
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 OP= _2DROP ... OP_2DROP (2 OP_2DROP)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 OP_ENDIF
=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 OP_DEPTH 2 OP_GREATERTHANOREQUAL OP_IF
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 OP_2DROP
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 OP_ENDIF
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = OP_DEPTH OP_IF
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 OP_DROP
=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 OP_ENDIF
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 OP_TRUE
OP_ENDIF
```

The second part of the code is mainly a ge= neral-purpose and stack-size-independent method to remove all the stack ele= ments in order to be standard.=C2=A0

For this re= ason, it seems better to avoid the need for developers to "emulate" such a = weak version of OP_SUCCESS but to actually implement an opcode for that.

What do you think?

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups &= quot;Bitcoin Development Mailing List" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to bitcoind= ev+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/bitcoind= ev/ebd77d82-96ab-4530-909a-d085378b9868n%40googlegroups.com.
------=_Part_219827_1494883412.1733750874600-- ------=_Part_219826_310777324.1733750874600--