Received: from sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.194] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-1.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Vcrj8-0002WC-Pm for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Sun, 03 Nov 2013 07:04:02 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmx.de designates 212.227.17.21 as permitted sender) client-ip=212.227.17.21; envelope-from=thomasv1@gmx.de; helo=mout.gmx.net; Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]) by sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1Vcrj6-0002y7-Lw for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Sun, 03 Nov 2013 07:04:02 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.27] ([86.73.30.143]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LqhmM-1W83s80pqk-00eOlk for ; Sun, 03 Nov 2013 08:03:54 +0100 Message-ID: <5275F55A.1030805@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2013 08:03:54 +0100 From: Thomas Voegtlin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net References: <526BDEC2.2090709@gmx.de> <52721F47.30206@gmx.de> <5274C99A.8060304@gmx.de> <20131103064111.GI16611@crunch> In-Reply-To: <20131103064111.GI16611@crunch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:npozGThuMML5aC4Hj5DfiMSK+YALhQxPUyAI7w4LLsNYadBWq9+ GzXZIIGW4K/uFIkGLam6yMBGHraWQhIeJvgy+ZyJSH8po/1LFChcRH+Hi9KkShzGg+dL+Uk VqC8uKRR7Pxksu6kTUmXvmrM3bRArZ74ay6AGPNIZDreJJXLSWdeXUn3z0f1tGQmWcgDdcA F0klWMqGnUgiaJ0buR1Jg== X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (thomasv1[at]gmx.de) -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [212.227.17.21 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.2 FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT Envelope-from freemail username ends in digit (thomasv1[at]gmx.de) 1.2 MISSING_HEADERS Missing To: header X-Headers-End: 1Vcrj6-0002y7-Lw Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposal to replace BIP0039 X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2013 07:04:03 -0000 Le 03/11/2013 07:41, Timo Hanke a écrit : > No. You mean the computer would use B for this check? (k,K) could be > rigged by Trezor, who computes b as k-a. Timo I was just asking a question, in order to understand how this device works, and what are its requirements. if you think you can help, please explain.