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From: Erik Aronesty <earonesty@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 23 May 2017 22:42:30 -0400
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To: Tomas <tomas@tomasvdw.nl>
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Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Proposal to allow users to configure the maximum
 block weight based on a support threshold
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Instead of block thresholds, use utxo bits to coordinate size changes
(larger and smaller should be allowed).

There is no reason for miners to be involved in a decision to change this
aspects of the protocol.   Plenty of other ways to coordinate.

Otherwise someone can make it seem to a miner like 99pct of nodes are ready
for a larger weight.... even though that's false.

On May 23, 2017 8:03 AM, "Tomas via bitcoin-dev" <
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

> I have a proposal that would allow each user to optionally configure the
> maximum block weight at a support threshold.
>
> It recognizes that there is no need for off chain bickering, by
> providing a mechanism that lets each users freely choose their own
> parameters while still maintaining full coordination of any changes.
>
> The BIP can be found here:
>
> https://github.com/tomasvdw/bips/blob/master/bip-changing-
> the-maximum-block%20weight-based-on-a-support-threshold.mediawiki
>
> It is worth noting that this proposal does neither gives more power to
> miners nor reduces decentralization. Miners still rely on their blocks
> being accepted by economic nodes to sell their minted coins. This
> proposal doesn't change that.
>
> Regards,
> Tomas van der Wansem
> bitcrust
> _______________________________________________
> bitcoin-dev mailing list
> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org
> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
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<div dir=3D"auto">Instead of block thresholds, use utxo bits to coordinate =
size changes (larger and smaller should be allowed).<div dir=3D"auto"><br><=
/div><div dir=3D"auto">There is no reason for miners to be involved in a de=
cision to change this aspects of the protocol. =C2=A0 Plenty of other ways =
to coordinate.<br><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Otherwise s=
omeone can make it seem to a miner like 99pct of nodes are ready for a larg=
er weight.... even though that&#39;s false.</div></div></div><div class=3D"=
gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On May 23, 2017 8:03 AM, &quot;=
Tomas via bitcoin-dev&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfo=
undation.org">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=
=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8=
ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I have a proposal that woul=
d allow each user to optionally configure the<br>
maximum block weight at a support threshold.<br>
<br>
It recognizes that there is no need for off chain bickering, by<br>
providing a mechanism that lets each users freely choose their own<br>
parameters while still maintaining full coordination of any changes.<br>
<br>
The BIP can be found here:<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://github.com/tomasvdw/bips/blob/master/bip-changing-the-ma=
ximum-block%20weight-based-on-a-support-threshold.mediawiki" rel=3D"norefer=
rer" target=3D"_blank">https://github.com/tomasvdw/<wbr>bips/blob/master/bi=
p-changing-<wbr>the-maximum-block%20weight-<wbr>based-on-a-support-threshol=
d.<wbr>mediawiki</a><br>
<br>
It is worth noting that this proposal does neither gives more power to<br>
miners nor reduces decentralization. Miners still rely on their blocks<br>
being accepted by economic nodes to sell their minted coins. This<br>
proposal doesn&#39;t change that.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Tomas van der Wansem<br>
bitcrust<br>
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bitcoin-dev mailing list<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org">bitcoin-dev@lists.=
<wbr>linuxfoundation.org</a><br>
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rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.linuxfoundation.<wbr>org=
/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-<wbr>dev</a><br>
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