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From: Chris Williams <chris@icloudtools.net>
To: Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail.com>
Thread-Topic: [Bitcoin-development] Why are we bleeding nodes?
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Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 17:39:37 +0000
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I=92m afraid this is a highly simplistic view of the costs of running a =
full node.

My node consumes fantastic amounts of data traffic, which is a real =
cost.

In the 30 days ending Apri 6, my node:

* Received 36.8 gb of data
* Sent 456.5 gb data

At my geographic service location (Singapore), this cost about $90 last =
month for bandwidth alone. It would be slightly cheaper if I was hosted =
in the US of course.

But anyone can understand that moving a half-terrabyte of data around in =
a month will not be cheap.


On Apr 7, 2014, at 8:53 AM, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Justus Ranvier =
<justusranvier@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 1. The resource requirements of a full node are moving beyond the
>> capabilities of casual users. This isn't inherently a problem - after
>> all most people don't grow their own food, tailor their own clothes, =
or
>> keep blacksmith tools handy in to forge their own horseshoes either.
>=20
> Right now running a full node consumes about $1 in disk space
> non-reoccurring and costs a couple cents in power per month.
>=20
> This isn't to say things are all ducky. But if you're going to say the
> resource requirements are beyond the capabilities of casual users I'm
> afraid I'm going to have to say: citation needed.
>=20
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