Received: from sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.191] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-2.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UFMQl-0004K6-Pd for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 10:27:39 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of petertodd.org designates 62.13.148.96 as permitted sender) client-ip=62.13.148.96; envelope-from=pete@petertodd.org; helo=outmail148096.authsmtp.net; Received: from outmail148096.authsmtp.net ([62.13.148.96]) by sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) id 1UFMQk-0005GM-9I for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 10:27:39 +0000 Received: from mail-c232.authsmtp.com (mail-c232.authsmtp.com [62.13.128.232]) by punt9.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/Kp) with ESMTP id r2CAR2ld013130; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 10:27:02 GMT Received: from savin (76-10-178-109.dsl.teksavvy.com [76.10.178.109]) (authenticated bits=128) by mail.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/) with ESMTP id r2CAQvaE082499 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 12 Mar 2013 10:26:59 GMT Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 06:26:27 -0400 From: Peter Todd To: Michael Gronager Message-ID: <20130312102627.GB22309@savin> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZoaI/ZTpAVc4A5k6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Server-Quench: 5fc80691-8aff-11e2-b10b-0025903375e2 X-AuthReport-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCd2Yg0TA1ZNQRgX IjsJECJaVQIpKltL GxAVKBZePFsRUQkR aQdMdwAUFVQGAgsB AmUbWlReUlp7WWM7 bAxPbAVDY01GQQRq WVdMSlVNFUsqA29w Z1hPJxl6dQFPcTBx ZUJgVj5eChdydUB0 Q1NcRDtQeGZhPWIC AkFYJR5UcAFPdx9G aVd6AXFDAzANdhES HhM4ODE3eDlSNilR RRkIIFQOdA40FyQ6 RhYNT30qFEsUD311 cFQgLVIRBw4bKEg7 MhMmXxocOgUdB28W GVxICiJDb14PDzY7 SgleWkUdQ3VTRj1f SgcpORwg X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633532353630.1019:706 X-AuthFastPath: 0 (Was 255) X-AuthSMTP-Origin: 76.10.178.109/587 X-AuthVirus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record X-Headers-End: 1UFMQk-0005GM-9I Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Warning: many 0.7 nodes break on large number of tx/block; fork risk X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 10:27:39 -0000 --ZoaI/ZTpAVc4A5k6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 11:13:09AM +0100, Michael Gronager wrote: > Following that, increase the soft and hard limit to 1 and eg 10MB, but mi= ners should be the last to upgrade. We just saw a hard-fork happen because we ran into previously unknown scaling issues with the current codebase. Why follow that up immediately with yet another jump into unknown scaling territory? I suspect the PR fallout from another chain split, let alone multiple splits, will be far damaging to Bitcoin than stories along the lines of "Gee, actually it'd kinda expensive to do a Bitcoin transaction these days due to all the competition. I dunno, I guess it must be really popular and valuable or something?" Lets let the issue rest for a while, and we can all have some time to work on our various approaches to solving the problem. The worst that will happen is growth temporarily slows - hardly a disaster I think. --=20 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org --ZoaI/ZTpAVc4A5k6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRPwLSAAoJEH+rEUJn5PoET/gH/j7kReL9spCIRt26sO7mKoRs N82OWDj0M/is8ssADiss4oLDlbtSfEC2hrTu9Teshhxm7XNVepiDFTFztVG5F3vf PzOqYN9A1VrqgGnsOrXFnlv39v9KFWkB74w+itZyYFdXx5LyETNlATpxvBfMtcG6 b3Ql4K2DaBsMlclbpDxff4VwJU3wS09nXu4LfgFRQTcL9H9Hn6dnqAgHZfKiEsUK fJuBXUO/Sk5lvo8lktEud39isF6n379N9sBwB3Nzo1vEq7XZeZjVyG8gZ+IDTEvB QryCd+BFRhDXlvHBjcuZnB/YKBsPXha72hmsUgrn3XeLLlYLeiQN4IvTdCMvyaY= =Wx97 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZoaI/ZTpAVc4A5k6--