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From: Hugo Nguyen <hugo@nunchuk.io>
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2021 02:05:54 -0800
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To: Christopher Allen <ChristopherA@lifewithalacrity.com>
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Cc: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Proposal: Bitcoin Secure Multisig Setup
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Hi Christopher,
Comments inline.

On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 1:31 AM Christopher Allen <
ChristopherA@lifewithalacrity.com> wrote:

> In the Airgapped Wallet Community we also have been investigating
> solutions, in particular as current common practice is is reuse the same
> xpub for all multisigs, for instance [90081696/48'/0'/0'/2']
> xpub6DYLEkDfCdHzh5FHGHDJksQvFqu6kYANa1sfo6fA8n5ZWkSwyCRVVzyq9LY2eNGB6T9BK=
DeGJp2ZarjRZHd7WB95nSaFEDhFMK6zSV6D49b
>
>
I don't think reusing XPUBs inside different multisig wallets is a good
idea... For starters, loss of privacy in one wallet will immediately affect
privacy of other wallets. I think multisig wallets should be completely
firewalled from each other. That means one unique XPUB per wallet. This is
what we have been doing with the Nunchuk wallet.


> We=E2=80=99ve also have been looking into multi round commitment scheme, =
but
> wanted to align the UX so that it would work like to musig for users.
> Discussion on it is scattered, for instance
>
> https://github.com/BlockchainCommons/Airgapped-Wallet-Community/discussio=
ns/16#discussioncomment-212013
>
> Nothing got as far as your version though.
>
> So Concept ACK from Blockchain Commons. Less clear on your specifics
> though. We will review.
>
> Note that we are releasing a descriptor & multisig centric iOS and Androi=
d
> reference wallet soon so solving this correctly and having interoperabili=
ty
> with others is very important for our roadmap.
>

Thank you and good to know ! Look forward to solving this correctly as well=
.

Best,

Hugo


>
> =E2=80=94 Christopher Allen
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi Christopher,<br>Comments inline.</div><br><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Feb 9, 202=
1 at 1:31 AM Christopher Allen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ChristopherA@lifewitha=
lacrity.com">ChristopherA@lifewithalacrity.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left=
:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">In the Airg=
apped Wallet Community we also have been investigating solutions, in partic=
ular as current common practice is is reuse the same xpub for all multisigs=
, for instance [90081696/48&#39;/0&#39;/0&#39;/2&#39;] xpub6DYLEkDfCdHzh5FH=
GHDJksQvFqu6kYANa1sfo6fA8n5ZWkSwyCRVVzyq9LY2eNGB6T9BKDeGJp2ZarjRZHd7WB95nSa=
FEDhFMK6zSV6D49b</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div></blockquote><div><br>I d=
on&#39;t think reusing XPUBs inside different multisig wallets is a good id=
ea... For starters, loss of privacy in one wallet will immediately affect p=
rivacy of other wallets. I think multisig wallets should be completely fire=
walled from each other. That means one unique=C2=A0XPUB per wallet. This is=
 what we have been doing with the Nunchuk wallet.</div><div><br>=C2=A0</div=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border=
-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"></div>=
<div dir=3D"auto">We=E2=80=99ve also have been looking into multi round com=
mitment scheme, but wanted to align the UX so that it would work like to mu=
sig for users. Discussion on it is scattered, for instance <div><a href=3D"=
https://github.com/BlockchainCommons/Airgapped-Wallet-Community/discussions=
/16#discussioncomment-212013" target=3D"_blank">https://github.com/Blockcha=
inCommons/Airgapped-Wallet-Community/discussions/16#discussioncomment-21201=
3</a></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div>Nothing got as far as your version t=
hough.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">So Concept ACK fr=
om Blockchain Commons. Less clear on your specifics though. We will review.=
</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Note that we are releas=
ing a descriptor &amp; multisig centric iOS and Android reference wallet so=
on so solving this correctly and having interoperability with others is ver=
y important for our roadmap.</div></blockquote><div><br>Thank you and good =
to know ! Look forward to solving this correctly as well.<br><br>Best,<br><=
br>Hugo</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:=
1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">=E2=80=94 Christopher Al=
len</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div>
</blockquote></div></div>

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