Received: from sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.191] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-1.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S3zsS-0008GA-Kx for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Sun, 04 Mar 2012 01:04:44 +0000 X-ACL-Warn: Received: from zinan.dashjr.org ([173.242.112.54]) by sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) id 1S3zsR-0000dD-OS for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Sun, 04 Mar 2012 01:04:44 +0000 Received: from ishibashi.localnet (fl-184-4-164-217.dhcp.embarqhsd.net [184.4.164.217]) (Authenticated sender: luke-jr) by zinan.dashjr.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1AC31560548; Sun, 4 Mar 2012 01:04:38 +0000 (UTC) From: "Luke-Jr" To: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 20:04:29 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/3.2.2-gentoo; KDE/4.7.4; x86_64; ; ) References: <201202281706.22650.luke@dashjr.org> <4F52AE86.2060102@bitminter.com> In-Reply-To: <4F52AE86.2060102@bitminter.com> X-PGP-Key-Fingerprint: CE5A D56A 36CC 69FA E7D2 3558 665F C11D D53E 9583 X-PGP-Key-ID: 665FC11DD53E9583 X-PGP-Keyserver: x-hkp://subkeys.pgp.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201203032004.31048.luke@dashjr.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain X-Headers-End: 1S3zsR-0000dD-OS Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] getmemorypool BIP process X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2012 01:04:44 -0000 On Saturday, March 03, 2012 6:51:34 PM Geir Harald Hansen wrote: > Long polling as currently implemented in pools has a race condition. > Does the miner reconnect first or does another block change happen > first? "Double" block changes are common with merged mining and I'm > doing all sorts of tricks in my pool backend to reduce this problem. How would you suggest addressing this? I presume if a share solves blocks on multiple chains, you just longpoll once when that's successful? > How about another entry "longpollid" in long poll responses. The last > seen longpollid should be included by the client in future long poll > requests. This enables the server to see if the client has missed any > block changes. The ID could perhaps be submitted in an HTTP header > (X-LongPollID?) if we wish to keep the JSON-RPC params empty, or params > could hold an object with a key "longpollid". Could be a string or > number, like "workid". Hmm, the problem is that adding any parameters to getmemorypool itself breaks compatibility with bitcoind 0.5, and using HTTP headers makes it HTTP-specific again. Any ideas? > Another useful value in the getmemorypool response would be "height", so > the miner can include the correct height in the coinbase. I would like > that in bitcoind as well. One JSON-RPC call instead of two, and no race > condition between getmemorypool and getblocknumber. Good catch. Should this be required (since it might be necessary for future Bitcoin blocks), or just "should" for compatibility? > It should be explained how target vs. fulltarget works. What is unclear about this? > Perhaps some things should be optional for a client to implement? Doing this safely needs some way for clients to communicate capabilities to the server, which has the problem of passing parameters to getmemorypool. > I think "noncerange" is of limited use and there's a good chance of getting > the endianness wrong. There is no mining hardware to date that exhausts even half the nonce space, so I'd really prefer to see this as a required feature on the miner side. On the other hand, it's merely an extension for getwork, so I can see the problem so long as we're using getwork proxies. Luke