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[2607:f8b0:4864:20::102b]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q3-20020a05622a030300b0043976a81447si120840qtw.4.2024.04.20.14.11.24 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 20 Apr 2024 14:11:24 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of steven.j.lee@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::102b as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::102b; Received: by mail-pj1-x102b.google.com with SMTP id 98e67ed59e1d1-2abf9305afcso1757907a91.1 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2024 14:11:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:1241:b0:2a8:2cce:9f46 with SMTP id gx1-20020a17090b124100b002a82cce9f46mr4697966pjb.30.1713647483999; Sat, 20 Apr 2024 14:11:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2092f7ff-4860-47f8-ba1a-c9d97927551e@achow101.com> <4c1462b7-ea1c-4a36-be81-7c3719157fabn@googlegroups.com> <6806b22d-043d-4201-841a-95e17cd8d542@mattcorallo.com> <77554baa9330c57361c65c1fc85557f1@dtrt.org> <7b4e2223-0b96-4ca0-a441-aebcfc7b0bben@googlegroups.com> <070755a0-10e9-4903-9524-dd8ef98c1c8b@achow101.com> <0d4d85e3-9fbb-4bd4-af0f-92225e699b63@achow101.com> In-Reply-To: <0d4d85e3-9fbb-4bd4-af0f-92225e699b63@achow101.com> From: Steve Lee Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2024 14:11:11 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bitcoindev] Re: Adding New BIP Editors To: Ava Chow Cc: bitcoindev@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000008de0fe06168da52c" X-Original-Sender: steven.j.lee@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20230601 header.b=C7I2U3+c; spf=pass (google.com: domain of steven.j.lee@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::102b as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=steven.j.lee@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bitcoindev@googlegroups.com; contact bitcoindev+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 786775582512 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) --0000000000008de0fe06168da52c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 2:08=E2=80=AFPM Ava Chow wrote= : > On 04/20/2024 04:46 PM, Steve Lee wrote: > > Wasn't there evidence provided that Kanzure does not want this > > responsibility without being paid? > > I am not aware of that, and it hasn't come up when I've talked to him > about being a BIPs editor. > You should read this thread then before making a decision. > > > I'm confused by this process that we don't even ask the people if they > > want the responsibility? I think only Laolu has chimed in to commit to > it? > > Personally, I've spoken to all 5 privately and they've all confirmed to > me that they are willing to be BIPs editors. Jonatack[1] and Murch[2] > have also replied to this thread about this. Ok good to know. Would've been nice to share this here so everyone was aware. > > Ava > > [1]: > > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/83b69000-ca1e-4a58-90b5-114cb09ac0bbn@go= oglegroups.com/ > [2]: > > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/53a0015c-b76a-441a-920b-32bd88d5e778@mur= ch.one/ > > > > > On Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 12:30=E2=80=AFPM 'Ava Chow' via Bitcoin Develop= ment > > Mailing List > > wrote: > > > > Since we're now past the deadline of April 19th, I'd like to inform > > everyone of what will happen on Monday. > > > > There has not been any actual objections to the nominees nor have > there > > been any suggestions on choosing a subset of them since my last > email. > > As such, there is rough consensus on adding Kanzure, Murch, Jonatac= k, > > Ruben, and Roasbeef as BIP editors, and they will be added on Monda= y > > April 22nd. > > > > Ava > > > > On 04/16/2024 01:08 PM, 'Ava Chow' via Bitcoin Development Mailing > List > > wrote: > > > While I don't disagree that 5 or 6 people seems like a lot to ad= d > at > > > once, it's not clear to me how we should decide which subset of > the > > > nominees should be added. As it is now, I have only seen an actu= al > > > objection to Kanzure and Ruben from /dev/fd0, and no explicit > > objections > > > to anyone else. It seems like the vast majority of people don't > share > > > their concerns either as both Kanzure and Ruben continue to be > > endorsed > > > by many others. > > > > > > Looking at the endorsements each candidate has received, the > current > > > counts are: > > > * Kanzure - 17 for, 1 against > > > * Murch - 13 for > > > * Jonatack - 13 for > > > * Ruben - 12 for, 1 against > > > * Roasbeef - 9 for > > > * Michael Folkson - none > > > > > > However, I don't want this process to become a popularity contes= t > and > > > require some kind of formal voting. Rather I'd prefer that this > > process > > > be something more like how Bitcoin Core maintainers are added - = by > > > achieving rough consensus. Without any explicit objections to an= y > of > > > these candidates, I'm inclined to move forward with adding the 5 > who > > > have received endorsements. Having to pick "winners" from this > list > > > seems like a quick way to stir up drama that I don't think anyon= e > > really > > > wants to deal with. > > > > > > I do want to note that neither Kanzure, Ruben, nor Roasbeef have > > posted > > > on this list that they are willing to be BIP editors. I have > > reached out > > > to all 3 of them privately, and received responses from Kanzure > and > > > Ruben that indicate that they probably are willing, but public > > > confirmation from them on this list would also be nice. I have n= ot > > > received a response from Roasbeef. > > > > > > Ava > > > > > > On 04/11/2024 10:22 AM, Sergi Delgado Segura wrote: > > >> > I would prefer having more (9+?) than less folks on this > > task, so > > >> personal preferences are easily ignored and overwritten by the > group > > >> majority. > > >> > > >> I disagree with that, the more doesn't really the better here. > > Having > > >> too many editors may result in a tragedy of the commons, in > > which people > > >> just commit to the job because many others do, and they do not > > end up > > >> doing as much because they expect others to do the it. This doe= s > not > > >> only make the process look bad but may burnout the ones that en= d > up > > >> doing the job, given their time commitment ends up being too fa= r > > from > > >> their expectations. > > >> > > >> I think being more moderate with the amount of people is better= , > and > > >> gives us leeway in case the workload ends up being excessive an= d > > we need > > >> to add more people (plus discourage people from joining and > > slacking off). > > >> > > >> I think 3 more people should be a good number to start from. > > >> I'd personally vouch for Murch, Kanzure, and Ruben based on > > their track > > >> record in the space > > >> > > >> On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 4:30=E2=80=AFPM nvk > > > >> >> wrote: > > >> > > >> +1 for > > >> Kanzure > > >> RubenSomsen > > >> Seccour > > >> Jon Atack > > >> Roasbeef > > >> > > >> I would prefer having more (9+?) than less folks on this task, = so > > >> personal preferences are easily ignored and overwritten by the > group > > >> majority. > > >> > > >> BIPs were intended as a means to collect ideas, not enforce > ideas. > > >> > > >> I'd like to return to that. > > >> > > >> - NVK (temp gmail account) > > >> > > >> On Monday, April 1, 2024 at 5:16:54=E2=80=AFPM UTC-4 David= A. > > Harding wrote: > > >> > > >> On 2024-03-28 10:04, Matt Corallo wrote: > > >> > Please provide justification rather than simply > > saying "I > > >> like Bob!". > > >> > > >> Using only comments from the mailing list, the > > following appears > > >> to be > > >> the candidate list along with the current support. > > Asterisks denote > > >> candidates who indicated their willingness to accept > > the role. > > >> > > >> - Bryan "Kanzure" Bishop, recommended by Ava Chow[1], > Chris > > >> Stewart[3], > > >> Michael Folkson[6], Peter Todd[9], Matt Corallo[10], > > Brandon > > >> Black[11], > > >> Antoine Riard[12], Murch[13], Antoine Poinsot[15], Joh= n > > >> Carvalho[16] > > >> > > >> - Ruben Somsen, recommended by Ava Chow[1], Chris > > Stewart[3], > > >> Michael > > >> Folkson[6], Antoine Riard[12], Murch[13], Antoine > > Poinsot[15], John > > >> Carvalho[16] > > >> > > >> - Jon Atack*, recommended by Luke Dashjr[2], Chris > > Stewart[3], > > >> /dev/fd0[5][7], > > >> Brandon Black[11], Antoine Riard[12], Ava Chow[14], Jo= hn > > >> Carvalho[16] > > >> > > >> - Olaoluwa "Roasbeef" Osuntokun, recommended by Chris > > >> Stewart[3], John > > >> C. Vernaleo[4], /dev/fd0[5][7], Keagan McClelland[8], > > Antoine > > >> Riard[12], Ava Chow[14] > > >> > > >> - Mark "Murch" Erhardt*, recommended by Michael > > Folkson[6], Keagan > > >> McClelland[8], Matt Corallo[10], Brandon Black[11], > Antoine > > >> Riard[12], > > >> Ava Chow[14] > > >> > > >> - Michael Folkson* > > >> > > >> Note: Luke Dashjr proposed[17] Seccour and Greg Tonosk= i > for > > >> "non-dev > > >> triaging", Tonoski proposed himself[18] for "BIP > > editor", and > > >> Antoine > > >> Riard[12] proposed Seccour for "decentralized PM". > > >> > > >> I searched the BIPs repo by commenter to see if any of > > the above > > >> candidates had been especially active there, which is > > listed > > >> below as: > > >> total PRs they commented on (number still open/number > > closed). > > >> > > >> - 21 (1/20) commenter:kanzure > > >> - 3 (2/1) commenter:rubensomsen > > >> - 15 (0/15) commenter:jonatack > > >> - 18 (2/16) commenter:roasbeef > > >> - 10 (6/4) commenter:Murchandamus > > >> - 57 (6/51) commenter:michaelfolkson > > >> > > >> I'll also note that Osuntokun is the only member of th= e > > set to > > >> have a > > >> merged BIP that they co-authored, although I believe > > there are > > >> far-along > > >> draft BIPs for both Murch (terminology) and Somsen > (Silent > > >> Payments). I > > >> don't think this should be a requirement, but I do > think it > > >> demonstrates > > >> familiarity with the process. > > >> > > >> Speaking only for myself, I think all of the candidate= s > > above with > > >> multiple recommendations from other community > > participants are > > >> fully > > >> qualified for the role, so I'll only provide a detaile= d > > >> justification > > >> for the person who would be my first pick: Murch is no= t > > only a > > >> longstanding and broadly liked Bitcoin contributor, bu= t > > (as Corallo > > >> mentioned) he has worked on standardizing terminology > > through a > > >> draft > > >> BIP. In addition, he provided an extremely detailed > > review of > > >> all 300 > > >> pages of a draft of Mastering Bitcoin (3rd edition) an= d > has > > >> reviewed > > >> drafts of over 200 weekly Optech newsletters, in both > cases > > >> significantly improving the accuracy and > > comprehensibility of the > > >> documentation. To me, that seems very similar to the > > work we'd > > >> ask him > > >> to perform as a BIPs editor and it's something that > > he's already > > >> doing, > > >> so I think there's an excellent fit of person to role. > > >> > > >> -Dave > > >> > > >> [1] > > >> > > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/2092f7ff-4860-47f8...@achow101.com= / > > < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/2092f7ff-4860-47f8...@achow101.com/> < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/2092f7ff-4860-47f8-ba1a-c9d97927551e@ach= ow101.com/ > < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/2092f7ff-4860-47f8-ba1a-c9d97927551e@ach= ow101.com/ > >> > > >> [2] > > >> > > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/9288df7b-f2e9-4106...@dashjr.org/ > > > > < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/9288df7b-f2e9-4106-b843-c1ff8f8a62a3@das= hjr.org/ > < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/9288df7b-f2e9-4106-b843-c1ff8f8a62a3@das= hjr.org/ > >> > > >> [3] > > >> > > > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/d1e7183c-30e6-4f1a...@googlegroups.com/ = < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/d1e7183c-30e6-4f1a...@googlegroups.com/> > < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/d1e7183c-30e6-4f1a-8fd6-cddc46f129a2n@go= oglegroups.com/ > < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/d1e7183c-30e6-4f1a-8fd6-cddc46f129a2n@go= oglegroups.com/ > >> > > >> [4] > > >> > > > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/84309c3f-e848-d333...@netpurgatory.com/ = < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/84309c3f-e848-d333...@netpurgatory.com/> > < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/84309c3f-e848-d333-fd28-bdd55899b713@net= purgatory.com/ > < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/84309c3f-e848-d333-fd28-bdd55899b713@net= purgatory.com/ > >> > > >> [5] > > >> > > > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/4c1462b7-ea1c-4a36...@googlegroups.com/ = < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/4c1462b7-ea1c-4a36...@googlegroups.com/> > < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/4c1462b7-ea1c-4a36-be81-7c3719157fabn@go= oglegroups.com/ > < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/4c1462b7-ea1c-4a36-be81-7c3719157fabn@go= oglegroups.com/ > >> > > >> [6] > > >> > > > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/a116fba3-5948-48d2...@googlegroups.com/ = < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/a116fba3-5948-48d2...@googlegroups.com/> > < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/a116fba3-5948-48d2-a787-639a3564d006n@go= oglegroups.com/ > < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/a116fba3-5948-48d2-a787-639a3564d006n@go= oglegroups.com/ > >> > > >> [7] > > >> > > > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/846b668f-8386-4869...@googlegroups.com/ = < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/846b668f-8386-4869...@googlegroups.com/> > < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/846b668f-8386-4869-a3b1-55d346efbea1n@go= oglegroups.com/ > < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/846b668f-8386-4869-a3b1-55d346efbea1n@go= oglegroups.com/ > >> > > >> [8] > > >> > > > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/CALeFGL1-LKPWd7YRS110ut8tX=3DwruqgLEazRA= 5...@mail.gmail.com/ > < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/CALeFGL1-LKPWd7YRS110ut8tX=3DwruqgLEazRA= 5...@mail.gmail.com/> > < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/CALeFGL1-LKPWd7YRS110ut8tX=3DwruqgLEazRA= 5nVw9siYCPj4A@mail.gmail.com/ > < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/CALeFGL1-LKPWd7YRS110ut8tX=3DwruqgLEazRA= 5nVw9siYCPj4A@mail.gmail.com/ > >> > > >> [9] > > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ZgePPvbf...@petertodd.org/ > > > > >> > > > > > > >> [10] > > >> > > > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/f9435999-42df-46b5...@mattcorallo.com/ < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/f9435999-42df-46b5...@mattcorallo.com/> = < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/f9435999-42df-46b5-86e2-7ba0336a9bf2@mat= tcorallo.com/ > < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/f9435999-42df-46b5-86e2-7ba0336a9bf2@mat= tcorallo.com/ > >> > > >> [11] > > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ZgWRu32FXzqqg69V@console/ > > > > >> > > > > > > >> [12] > > >> > > > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/CALZpt+E8DohYEJ9aO+FiF6+E...@mail.gmail.= com/ > < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/CALZpt+E8DohYEJ9aO+FiF6+E...@mail.gmail.= com/> > < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/CALZpt+E8DohYEJ9aO+FiF6+EKMCP5oEbHSKSXpq= 0VKVBhJLhrw@mail.gmail.com/ > < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/CALZpt+E8DohYEJ9aO+FiF6+EKMCP5oEbHSKSXpq= 0VKVBhJLhrw@mail.gmail.com/ > >> > > >> [13] > > >> > > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/53a0015c-b76a-441a...@murch.one/ > > > > < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/53a0015c-b76a-441a-920b-32bd88d5e778@mur= ch.one/ > < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/53a0015c-b76a-441a-920b-32bd88d5e778@mur= ch.one/ > >> > > >> [14] > > >> > > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ae482890-bce3-468f...@achow101.com= / > > < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ae482890-bce3-468f...@achow101.com/> < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ae482890-bce3-468f-866d-c555b80b0644@ach= ow101.com/ > < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ae482890-bce3-468f-866d-c555b80b0644@ach= ow101.com/ > >> > > >> [15] > > >> > > > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ppBS1tfMU3SFX85kmIBVBd0WpT5Wof_oSBXsuizh= 7692AUDw2TojfvCqvcvlmsy9E69qfWMxK-UZWawf8IDApPqF7bXOH4gwU1c2jS4xojo=3D@prot= onmail.com/ > < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ppBS1tfMU3SFX85kmIBVBd0WpT5Wof_oSBXsuizh= 7692AUDw2TojfvCqvcvlmsy9E69qfWMxK-UZWawf8IDApPqF7bXOH4gwU1c2jS4xojo=3D@prot= onmail.com/> > < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ppBS1tfMU3SFX85kmIBVBd0WpT5Wof_oSBXsuizh= 7692AUDw2TojfvCqvcvlmsy9E69qfWMxK-UZWawf8IDApPqF7bXOH4gwU1c2jS4xojo=3D@prot= onmail.com/ > < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ppBS1tfMU3SFX85kmIBVBd0WpT5Wof_oSBXsuizh= 7692AUDw2TojfvCqvcvlmsy9E69qfWMxK-UZWawf8IDApPqF7bXOH4gwU1c2jS4xojo=3D@prot= onmail.com/ > >> > > >> [16] > > >> > > > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ad284018-e99c-4552...@googlegroups.com/ = < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ad284018-e99c-4552...@googlegroups.com/> > < > https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ad284018-e99c-4552-88ca-11b9ed340661n@go= oglegroups.com/ > < > 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On Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 2:08=E2=80=AFPM Ava Chow <lists@achow101.com> wrote:
=
On 04/20/2024 04:46 PM, Steve Lee wrote:
> Wasn't there evidence provided that Kanzure does not want this > responsibility without being paid?

I am not aware of that, and it hasn't come up when I've talked to h= im
about being a BIPs editor.

You should read = this thread then before making a decision.=C2=A0

> I'm confused by this process that we don't even ask the people= if they
> want the responsibility? I think only Laolu has chimed in to commit to= it?

Personally, I've spoken to all 5 privately and they've all confirme= d to
me that they are willing to be BIPs editors. Jonatack[1] and Murch[2]
have also replied to this thread about this.
=
Ok good to know. Would've been nice to shar= e this here so everyone was aware.=C2=A0

<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-l= eft-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rg= b(204,204,204)" dir=3D"auto">

Ava

[1]:
https://gnus= ha.org/pi/bitcoindev/83b69000-ca1e-4a58-90b5-114cb09ac0bbn@googlegroups.com= /
[2]:
https://gnusha.org/p= i/bitcoindev/53a0015c-b76a-441a-920b-32bd88d5e778@murch.one/

>
> On Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 12:30=E2=80=AFPM 'Ava Chow' via Bitcoi= n Development
> Mailing List <bitcoindev@googlegroups.com
> <mailto:bitcoindev@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Since we're now past the deadline of April 19th= , I'd like to inform
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0everyone of what will happen on Monday.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0There has not been any actual objections to the nom= inees nor have there
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0been any suggestions on choosing a subset of them s= ince my last email.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0As such, there is rough consensus on adding Kanzure= , Murch, Jonatack,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Ruben, and Roasbeef as BIP editors, and they will b= e added on Monday
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0April 22nd.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Ava
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On 04/16/2024 01:08 PM, 'Ava Chow' via Bitc= oin Development Mailing List
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0wrote:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > While I don't disagree that 5 or 6 people= seems like a lot to add at
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > once, it's not clear to me how we should = decide which subset of the
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > nominees should be added. As it is now, I hav= e only seen an actual
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > objection to Kanzure and Ruben from /dev/fd0,= and no explicit
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0objections
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > to anyone else. It seems like the vast majori= ty of people don't share
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > their concerns either as both Kanzure and Rub= en continue to be
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0endorsed
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > by many others.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > Looking at the endorsements each candidate ha= s received, the current
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > counts are:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > * Kanzure - 17 for, 1 against
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > * Murch - 13 for
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > * Jonatack - 13 for
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > * Ruben - 12 for, 1 against
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > * Roasbeef - 9 for
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > * Michael Folkson - none
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > However, I don't want this process to bec= ome a popularity contest and
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > require some kind of formal voting. Rather I&= #39;d prefer that this
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0process
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > be something more like how Bitcoin Core maint= ainers are added - by
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > achieving rough consensus. Without any explic= it objections to any of
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > these candidates, I'm inclined to move fo= rward with adding the 5 who
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > have received endorsements. Having to pick &q= uot;winners" from this list
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > seems like a quick way to stir up drama that = I don't think anyone
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0really
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > wants to deal with.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > I do want to note that neither Kanzure, Ruben= , nor Roasbeef have
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0posted
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > on this list that they are willing to be BIP = editors. I have
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0reached out
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > to all 3 of them privately, and received resp= onses from Kanzure and
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > Ruben that indicate that they probably are wi= lling, but public
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > confirmation from them on this list would als= o be nice. I have not
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > received a response from Roasbeef.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > Ava
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > On 04/11/2024 10:22 AM, Sergi Delgado Segura = wrote:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0> I would prefer having mo= re (9+?) than less folks on this
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0task, so
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> personal preferences are easily ignored a= nd overwritten by the group
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> majority.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> I disagree with that, the more doesn'= t really the better here.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Having
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> too many editors may result in a tragedy = of the commons, in
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0which people
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> just commit to the job because many other= s do, and they do not
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0end up
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> doing as much because they expect others = to do the it. This does not
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> only make the process look bad but may bu= rnout the ones that end up
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> doing the job, given their time commitmen= t ends up being too far
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0from
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> their expectations.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> I think being more moderate with the amou= nt of people is better, and
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> gives us leeway in case the workload ends= up being excessive and
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0we need
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> to add more people (plus discourage peopl= e from joining and
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0slacking off).
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> I think 3 more people should be a good nu= mber to start from.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> I'd personally vouch for Murch, Kanzu= re, and Ruben based on
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0their track
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> record in the space
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 4:30=E2=80=AFPM nv= k <rdlfnvk@gmail.= com
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<mailto:rdlfnvk@gmail.com>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> <mailto:rdlfnvk@gmail.com <mailto:rdlfnvk@gmail.com>>> wro= te:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> +1 for
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> Kanzure
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> RubenSomsen
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> Seccour
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> Jon Atack
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> Roasbeef
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> I would prefer having more (9+?) than les= s folks on this task, so
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> personal preferences are easily ignored a= nd overwritten by the group
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> majority.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> BIPs were intended as a means to collect = ideas, not enforce ideas.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> I'd like to return to that.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> - NVK (temp gmail account)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 On Monday, April 1, 2= 024 at 5:16:54=E2=80=AFPM UTC-4 David A.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Harding wrote:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 On 2024= -03-28 10:04, Matt Corallo wrote:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&= gt; Please provide justification rather than simply
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0saying "I
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 like Bo= b!".
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Using o= nly comments from the mailing list, the
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0following appears
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 to be >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 the can= didate list along with the current support.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Asterisks denote
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 candida= tes who indicated their willingness to accept
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the role.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - Bryan= "Kanzure" Bishop, recommended by Ava Chow[1], Chris
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Stewart= [3],
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Michael= Folkson[6], Peter Todd[9], Matt Corallo[10],
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Brandon
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Black[1= 1],
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Antoine= Riard[12], Murch[13], Antoine Poinsot[15], John
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Carvalh= o[16]
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - Ruben= Somsen, recommended by Ava Chow[1], Chris
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Stewart[3],
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Michael=
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Folkson= [6], Antoine Riard[12], Murch[13], Antoine
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Poinsot[15], John
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Carvalh= o[16]
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - Jon A= tack*, recommended by Luke Dashjr[2], Chris
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Stewart[3],
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 /dev/fd= 0[5][7],
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Brandon= Black[11], Antoine Riard[12], Ava Chow[14], John
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Carvalh= o[16]
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - Olaol= uwa "Roasbeef" Osuntokun, recommended by Chris
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Stewart= [3], John
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 C. Vern= aleo[4], /dev/fd0[5][7], Keagan McClelland[8],
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Antoine
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Riard[1= 2], Ava Chow[14]
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - Mark = "Murch" Erhardt*, recommended by Michael
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Folkson[6], Keagan
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 McClell= and[8], Matt Corallo[10], Brandon Black[11], Antoine
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Riard[1= 2],
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Ava Cho= w[14]
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - Micha= el Folkson*
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Note: L= uke Dashjr proposed[17] Seccour and Greg Tonoski for
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "n= on-dev
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 triagin= g", Tonoski proposed himself[18] for "BIP
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0editor", and
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Antoine=
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Riard[1= 2] proposed Seccour for "decentralized PM".
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I searc= hed the BIPs repo by commenter to see if any of
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the above
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 candida= tes had been especially active there, which is
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0listed
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 below a= s:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 total P= Rs they commented on (number still open/number
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0closed).
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - 21 (1= /20) commenter:kanzure
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - 3 (2/= 1) commenter:rubensomsen
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - 15 (0= /15) commenter:jonatack
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - 18 (2= /16) commenter:roasbeef
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - 10 (6= /4) commenter:Murchandamus
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - 57 (6= /51) commenter:michaelfolkson
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I'l= l also note that Osuntokun is the only member of the
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0set to
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 have a<= br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 merged = BIP that they co-authored, although I believe
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0there are
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 far-alo= ng
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 draft B= IPs for both Murch (terminology) and Somsen (Silent
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Payment= s). I
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 don'= ;t think this should be a requirement, but I do think it
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 demonst= rates
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 familia= rity with the process.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Speakin= g only for myself, I think all of the candidates
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0above with
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 multipl= e recommendations from other community
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0participants are
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 fully >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 qualifi= ed for the role, so I'll only provide a detailed
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 justifi= cation
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 for the= person who would be my first pick: Murch is not
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0only a
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 longsta= nding and broadly liked Bitcoin contributor, but
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(as Corallo
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 mention= ed) he has worked on standardizing terminology
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0through a
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 draft >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 BIP. In= addition, he provided an extremely detailed
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0review of
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 all 300=
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 pages o= f a draft of Mastering Bitcoin (3rd edition) and has
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 reviewe= d
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 drafts = of over 200 weekly Optech newsletters, in both cases
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 signifi= cantly improving the accuracy and
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0comprehensibility of the
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 documen= tation. To me, that seems very similar to the
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0work we'd
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ask him=
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 to perf= orm as a BIPs editor and it's something that
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0he's already
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 doing,<= br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 so I th= ink there's an excellent fit of person to role.
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