Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 196E692 for ; Sun, 2 Oct 2016 23:19:13 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail.bluematt.me (mail.bluematt.me [192.241.179.72]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D8DA135 for ; Sun, 2 Oct 2016 23:19:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.17.0.2] (gw.vpn.bluematt.me [162.243.132.6]) by mail.bluematt.me (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DF26213410B; Sun, 2 Oct 2016 23:19:10 +0000 (UTC) To: Gregory Maxwell , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion References: <57F18F5A.6010304@mattcorallo.com> From: Matt Corallo Message-ID: <57F195EC.30009@mattcorallo.com> Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2016 23:19:08 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] About ASICBoost X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2016 23:19:13 -0000 Even if the Bitcoin Foundation decided to recklessly disregard Bitcoin's future centralization, I'm not sure going to them and asking them to pay a license fee in order to keep from holding the rest of the Bitcoin mining community hostage counts as "regard for centralization pressure". It also doesn't excuse the lack of transparent licensing being available today, or the lack of transparency when discussing it in public after the patent had been filed. Matt On 10/02/16 22:58, Gregory Maxwell via bitcoin-dev wrote: > On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 10:51 PM, Matt Corallo via bitcoin-dev > wrote: >> If you had acted in a way which indicated even the slightest regard for >> centralization pressure and the harm it can do to Bitcoin in the >> long-term, then I dont think many would be blaming you. Instead of any > > Sergio was concerned about centralization pressure in private. He > reached out to the BCF on 2013-11-23 and asked if they would license > the patent from him so they could make it equally available to all > under "fair" terms. BCF responded that they didn't think it (a > proprietary patent encumbered enhancement that would make its user(s) > 30% more effective than others) would be a big deal and basically > encouraged him to go ahead and seek the patent. > _______________________________________________ > bitcoin-dev mailing list > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev >