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From: Michael Folkson <michaelfolkson@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2024 12:43:41 +0100
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Subject: Re: [bitcoindev] Re: Adding New BIP Editors
To: Ava Chow <lists@achow101.com>
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Ava

Thanks for the detailed response, I appreciate the insight.

>> I'm even more concerned about future soft fork activation attempts.
>> These don't necessarily need to be attempted via a Bitcoin Core merged
>> pull request hence the BIPs repo could be a key source of information
>> and guidance on this.

> This concern doesn't make any sense. There are already multiple soft and
> hard fork BIPs that are not active nor good ideas. A BIP does not need
> to be a good idea.

I would hope that a contentious soft fork and activation params for
that contentious soft fork would not be merged into the Bitcoin Core
codebase and up until now it hasn't been. I would hope all the Bitcoin
Core maintainers understand that even if they personally think a soft
fork is a good idea (apparently there is nothing to stop them merging
it without discussing it with the other maintainers) that they
shouldn't independently merge it if it is contentious.

Similarly I would hope that all BIP editors would be careful about
what information gets merged around soft fork activation *attempts*
whether that be activation details on a particular soft fork BIP or on
a separate activation BIP. With Taproot there were very strong
disagreements over activation parameters for a non-contentious soft
fork. It would be much messier for a contentious soft fork activation
attempt. I'm not sure all these new BIP editors understand that or
would perhaps even agree with that. For example Laolu is listed as a
supporter of a CTV activation attempt back in 2022 [0] which was
clearly contentious. That doesn't inspire me with confidence that as
soon as he is a BIP editor he won't start merging details on
contentious soft fork activation attempts in BIPs and merging that
soft fork in say btcd. He would need to be removed as a BIP editor if
he were to do something like that.

Thanks
Michael

[0]: https://utxos.org/signals/


On Sun, Apr 21, 2024 at 12:05=E2=80=AFAM Ava Chow <lists@achow101.com> wrot=
e:
>
>
> On 04/20/2024 06:21 PM, Michael Folkson wrote:
> > It is inevitable there will be a "revert war" unless they all have to
> > agree on merge decisions or communicate prior to merging. It is just a
> > matter of time. Does for example Ordinal Numbers get a BIP number? I
> > suspect all the new BIP editors won't agree on that.
>
> Why do you think that a revert war is inevitable?
>
> The Bitcoin Core repo operates in a similar way - the maintainers are
> independent and work autonomously. The maintainers do not have to agree
> on merge decisions nor do they communicate prior to merging. If there's
> disagreement about a merge decision, we talk to each other about it like
> adults and come to a mutually agreeable resolution. I don't think
> there's ever been a revert war in the history of Bitcoin.
>
> I would expect that when there is something that is likely to be
> controversial or is ambiguous that it should be a BIP that they would
> then talk to each other about it. It doesn't have to be all or nothing -
> they can do most work without communicating, but when there's questions
> or ambiguity, then they communicate.
>
> > Who is to blame in a "revert war" if each editor is free to merge
> > whatever pull request they like? The editor who merged it? Why should
> > they be removed as an editor for merging a pull request when they find
> > out later a different editor disagreed with that merge decision and
> > wants to revert the merge?
>
> A revert war would be someone merging a PR that reverts another, then
> someone else (opening then) merging a PR that reverts that, and it goes
> back and forth. It would not be limited to PRs only. This would likely
> be super obvious too that they are controversially merging things as I
> would be surprised if other BIP editors didn't comment on any of those
> actions, besides the fact that many people do also watch the BIPs repo.
> Regardless, the blame is on those who are doing the reverting, and would
> be both sides.
>
> > I'm even more concerned about future soft fork activation attempts.
> > These don't necessarily need to be attempted via a Bitcoin Core merged
> > pull request hence the BIPs repo could be a key source of information
> > and guidance on this.
>
> This concern doesn't make any sense. There are already multiple soft and
> hard fork BIPs that are not active nor good ideas. A BIP does not need
> to be a good idea.
>
> > I've seen Wladimir is contributing again to Core. Is there a plan to
> > give him commit access again?
>
> It would have to be through the typical maintainer process, although I
> doubt that he even wants it. But that's completely orthogonal to the
> BIPs repo discussion.
>
> > I'd be more comfortable with him
> > overseeing things in the various repos under the Bitcoin Core
> > (/bitcoin) GitHub org as it sounds like you don't really care if the
> > BIPs repo degenerates into a free for all.
>
> I don't understand why you assume that.
>
> I've said this before, but if I see a revert war going on in the BIPs
> repo, I will remove those involved immediately and make a thread on the
> list to discuss what to do about them. But I doubt that's a scenario
> that will actually come to pass.
>
> Ava
>
> >
> > Thanks
> > Michael
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 10:15=E2=80=AFPM 'Ava Chow' via Bitcoin Develop=
ment
> > Mailing List <bitcoindev@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 04/20/2024 04:46 PM, Steve Lee wrote:
> >>> Wasn't there evidence provided that Kanzure does not want this
> >>> responsibility without being paid?
> >>
> >> I am not aware of that, and it hasn't come up when I've talked to him
> >> about being a BIPs editor.
> >>
> >>> I'm confused by this process that we don't even ask the people if the=
y
> >>> want the responsibility? I think only Laolu has chimed in to commit t=
o it?
> >>
> >> Personally, I've spoken to all 5 privately and they've all confirmed t=
o
> >> me that they are willing to be BIPs editors. Jonatack[1] and Murch[2]
> >> have also replied to this thread about this.
> >>
> >> Ava
> >>
> >> [1]:
> >> https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/83b69000-ca1e-4a58-90b5-114cb09ac0bbn=
@googlegroups.com/
> >> [2]:
> >> https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/53a0015c-b76a-441a-920b-32bd88d5e778@=
murch.one/
> >>
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 12:30=E2=80=AFPM 'Ava Chow' via Bitcoin Devel=
opment
> >>> Mailing List <bitcoindev@googlegroups.com
> >>> <mailto:bitcoindev@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>      Since we're now past the deadline of April 19th, I'd like to inf=
orm
> >>>      everyone of what will happen on Monday.
> >>>
> >>>      There has not been any actual objections to the nominees nor hav=
e there
> >>>      been any suggestions on choosing a subset of them since my last =
email.
> >>>      As such, there is rough consensus on adding Kanzure, Murch, Jona=
tack,
> >>>      Ruben, and Roasbeef as BIP editors, and they will be added on Mo=
nday
> >>>      April 22nd.
> >>>
> >>>      Ava
> >>>
> >>>      On 04/16/2024 01:08 PM, 'Ava Chow' via Bitcoin Development Maili=
ng List
> >>>      wrote:
> >>>       > While I don't disagree that 5 or 6 people seems like a lot to=
 add at
> >>>       > once, it's not clear to me how we should decide which subset =
of the
> >>>       > nominees should be added. As it is now, I have only seen an a=
ctual
> >>>       > objection to Kanzure and Ruben from /dev/fd0, and no explicit
> >>>      objections
> >>>       > to anyone else. It seems like the vast majority of people don=
't share
> >>>       > their concerns either as both Kanzure and Ruben continue to b=
e
> >>>      endorsed
> >>>       > by many others.
> >>>       >
> >>>       > Looking at the endorsements each candidate has received, the =
current
> >>>       > counts are:
> >>>       > * Kanzure - 17 for, 1 against
> >>>       > * Murch - 13 for
> >>>       > * Jonatack - 13 for
> >>>       > * Ruben - 12 for, 1 against
> >>>       > * Roasbeef - 9 for
> >>>       > * Michael Folkson - none
> >>>       >
> >>>       > However, I don't want this process to become a popularity con=
test and
> >>>       > require some kind of formal voting. Rather I'd prefer that th=
is
> >>>      process
> >>>       > be something more like how Bitcoin Core maintainers are added=
 - by
> >>>       > achieving rough consensus. Without any explicit objections to=
 any of
> >>>       > these candidates, I'm inclined to move forward with adding th=
e 5 who
> >>>       > have received endorsements. Having to pick "winners" from thi=
s list
> >>>       > seems like a quick way to stir up drama that I don't think an=
yone
> >>>      really
> >>>       > wants to deal with.
> >>>       >
> >>>       > I do want to note that neither Kanzure, Ruben, nor Roasbeef h=
ave
> >>>      posted
> >>>       > on this list that they are willing to be BIP editors. I have
> >>>      reached out
> >>>       > to all 3 of them privately, and received responses from Kanzu=
re and
> >>>       > Ruben that indicate that they probably are willing, but publi=
c
> >>>       > confirmation from them on this list would also be nice. I hav=
e not
> >>>       > received a response from Roasbeef.
> >>>       >
> >>>       > Ava
> >>>       >
> >>>       > On 04/11/2024 10:22 AM, Sergi Delgado Segura wrote:
> >>>       >>   > I would prefer having more (9+?) than less folks on this
> >>>      task, so
> >>>       >> personal preferences are easily ignored and overwritten by t=
he group
> >>>       >> majority.
> >>>       >>
> >>>       >> I disagree with that, the more doesn't really the better her=
e.
> >>>      Having
> >>>       >> too many editors may result in a tragedy of the commons, in
> >>>      which people
> >>>       >> just commit to the job because many others do, and they do n=
ot
> >>>      end up
> >>>       >> doing as much because they expect others to do the it. This =
does not
> >>>       >> only make the process look bad but may burnout the ones that=
 end up
> >>>       >> doing the job, given their time commitment ends up being too=
 far
> >>>      from
> >>>       >> their expectations.
> >>>       >>
> >>>       >> I think being more moderate with the amount of people is bet=
ter, and
> >>>       >> gives us leeway in case the workload ends up being excessive=
 and
> >>>      we need
> >>>       >> to add more people (plus discourage people from joining and
> >>>      slacking off).
> >>>       >>
> >>>       >> I think 3 more people should be a good number to start from.
> >>>       >> I'd personally vouch for Murch, Kanzure, and Ruben based on
> >>>      their track
> >>>       >> record in the space
> >>>       >>
> >>>       >> On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 4:30=E2=80=AFPM nvk <rdlfnvk@gmail.co=
m
> >>>      <mailto:rdlfnvk@gmail.com>
> >>>       >> <mailto:rdlfnvk@gmail.com <mailto:rdlfnvk@gmail.com>>> wrote=
:
> >>>       >>
> >>>       >> +1 for
> >>>       >> Kanzure
> >>>       >> RubenSomsen
> >>>       >> Seccour
> >>>       >> Jon Atack
> >>>       >> Roasbeef
> >>>       >>
> >>>       >> I would prefer having more (9+?) than less folks on this tas=
k, so
> >>>       >> personal preferences are easily ignored and overwritten by t=
he group
> >>>       >> majority.
> >>>       >>
> >>>       >> BIPs were intended as a means to collect ideas, not enforce =
ideas.
> >>>       >>
> >>>       >> I'd like to return to that.
> >>>       >>
> >>>       >> - NVK (temp gmail account)
> >>>       >>
> >>>       >>      On Monday, April 1, 2024 at 5:16:54=E2=80=AFPM UTC-4 Da=
vid A.
> >>>      Harding wrote:
> >>>       >>
> >>>       >>          On 2024-03-28 10:04, Matt Corallo wrote:
> >>>       >>           > Please provide justification rather than simply
> >>>      saying "I
> >>>       >>          like Bob!".
> >>>       >>
> >>>       >>          Using only comments from the mailing list, the
> >>>      following appears
> >>>       >>          to be
> >>>       >>          the candidate list along with the current support.
> >>>      Asterisks denote
> >>>       >>          candidates who indicated their willingness to accep=
t
> >>>      the role.
> >>>       >>
> >>>       >>          - Bryan "Kanzure" Bishop, recommended by Ava Chow[1=
], Chris
> >>>       >>          Stewart[3],
> >>>       >>          Michael Folkson[6], Peter Todd[9], Matt Corallo[10]=
,
> >>>      Brandon
> >>>       >>          Black[11],
> >>>       >>          Antoine Riard[12], Murch[13], Antoine Poinsot[15], =
John
> >>>       >>          Carvalho[16]
> >>>       >>
> >>>       >>          - Ruben Somsen, recommended by Ava Chow[1], Chris
> >>>      Stewart[3],
> >>>       >>          Michael
> >>>       >>          Folkson[6], Antoine Riard[12], Murch[13], Antoine
> >>>      Poinsot[15], John
> >>>       >>          Carvalho[16]
> >>>       >>
> >>>       >>          - Jon Atack*, recommended by Luke Dashjr[2], Chris
> >>>      Stewart[3],
> >>>       >>          /dev/fd0[5][7],
> >>>       >>          Brandon Black[11], Antoine Riard[12], Ava Chow[14],=
 John
> >>>       >>          Carvalho[16]
> >>>       >>
> >>>       >>          - Olaoluwa "Roasbeef" Osuntokun, recommended by Chr=
is
> >>>       >>          Stewart[3], John
> >>>       >>          C. Vernaleo[4], /dev/fd0[5][7], Keagan McClelland[8=
],
> >>>      Antoine
> >>>       >>          Riard[12], Ava Chow[14]
> >>>       >>
> >>>       >>          - Mark "Murch" Erhardt*, recommended by Michael
> >>>      Folkson[6], Keagan
> >>>       >>          McClelland[8], Matt Corallo[10], Brandon Black[11],=
 Antoine
> >>>       >>          Riard[12],
> >>>       >>          Ava Chow[14]
> >>>       >>
> >>>       >>          - Michael Folkson*
> >>>       >>
> >>>       >>          Note: Luke Dashjr proposed[17] Seccour and Greg Ton=
oski for
> >>>       >>          "non-dev
> >>>       >>          triaging", Tonoski proposed himself[18] for "BIP
> >>>      editor", and
> >>>       >>          Antoine
> >>>       >>          Riard[12] proposed Seccour for "decentralized PM".
> >>>       >>
> >>>       >>          I searched the BIPs repo by commenter to see if any=
 of
> >>>      the above
> >>>       >>          candidates had been especially active there, which =
is
> >>>      listed
> >>>       >>          below as:
> >>>       >>          total PRs they commented on (number still open/numb=
er
> >>>      closed).
> >>>       >>
> >>>       >>          - 21 (1/20) commenter:kanzure
> >>>       >>          - 3 (2/1) commenter:rubensomsen
> >>>       >>          - 15 (0/15) commenter:jonatack
> >>>       >>          - 18 (2/16) commenter:roasbeef
> >>>       >>          - 10 (6/4) commenter:Murchandamus
> >>>       >>          - 57 (6/51) commenter:michaelfolkson
> >>>       >>
> >>>       >>          I'll also note that Osuntokun is the only member of=
 the
> >>>      set to
> >>>       >>          have a
> >>>       >>          merged BIP that they co-authored, although I believ=
e
> >>>      there are
> >>>       >>          far-along
> >>>       >>          draft BIPs for both Murch (terminology) and Somsen =
(Silent
> >>>       >>          Payments). I
> >>>       >>          don't think this should be a requirement, but I do =
think it
> >>>       >>          demonstrates
> >>>       >>          familiarity with the process.
> >>>       >>
> >>>       >>          Speaking only for myself, I think all of the candid=
ates
> >>>      above with
> >>>       >>          multiple recommendations from other community
> >>>      participants are
> >>>       >>          fully
> >>>       >>          qualified for the role, so I'll only provide a deta=
iled
> >>>       >>          justification
> >>>       >>          for the person who would be my first pick: Murch is=
 not
> >>>      only a
> >>>       >>          longstanding and broadly liked Bitcoin contributor,=
 but
> >>>      (as Corallo
> >>>       >>          mentioned) he has worked on standardizing terminolo=
gy
> >>>      through a
> >>>       >>          draft
> >>>       >>          BIP. In addition, he provided an extremely detailed
> >>>      review of
> >>>       >>          all 300
> >>>       >>          pages of a draft of Mastering Bitcoin (3rd edition)=
 and has
> >>>       >>          reviewed
> >>>       >>          drafts of over 200 weekly Optech newsletters, in bo=
th cases
> >>>       >>          significantly improving the accuracy and
> >>>      comprehensibility of the
> >>>       >>          documentation. To me, that seems very similar to th=
e
> >>>      work we'd
> >>>       >>          ask him
> >>>       >>          to perform as a BIPs editor and it's something that
> >>>      he's already
> >>>       >>          doing,
> >>>       >>          so I think there's an excellent fit of person to ro=
le.
> >>>       >>
> >>>       >>          -Dave
> >>>       >>
> >>>       >>          [1]
> >>>       >>
> >>>      https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/2092f7ff-4860-47f8...@achow101.=
com/
> >>>      <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/2092f7ff-4860-47f8...@achow101=
.com/> <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/2092f7ff-4860-47f8-ba1a-c9d9792755=
1e@achow101.com/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/2092f7ff-4860-47f8-ba1a-=
c9d97927551e@achow101.com/>>
> >>>       >>          [2]
> >>>       >>
> >>>      https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/9288df7b-f2e9-4106...@dashjr.or=
g/
> >>>      <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/9288df7b-f2e9-4106...@dashjr.o=
rg/>
> >>>      <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/9288df7b-f2e9-4106-b843-c1ff8f=
8a62a3@dashjr.org/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/9288df7b-f2e9-4106-b84=
3-c1ff8f8a62a3@dashjr.org/>>
> >>>       >>          [3]
> >>>       >>
> >>>      https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/d1e7183c-30e6-4f1a...@googlegro=
ups.com/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/d1e7183c-30e6-4f1a...@googlegrou=
ps.com/> <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/d1e7183c-30e6-4f1a-8fd6-cddc46f1=
29a2n@googlegroups.com/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/d1e7183c-30e6-4f1=
a-8fd6-cddc46f129a2n@googlegroups.com/>>
> >>>       >>          [4]
> >>>       >>
> >>>      https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/84309c3f-e848-d333...@netpurgat=
ory.com/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/84309c3f-e848-d333...@netpurgato=
ry.com/> <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/84309c3f-e848-d333-fd28-bdd55899=
b713@netpurgatory.com/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/84309c3f-e848-d333=
-fd28-bdd55899b713@netpurgatory.com/>>
> >>>       >>          [5]
> >>>       >>
> >>>      https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/4c1462b7-ea1c-4a36...@googlegro=
ups.com/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/4c1462b7-ea1c-4a36...@googlegrou=
ps.com/> <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/4c1462b7-ea1c-4a36-be81-7c371915=
7fabn@googlegroups.com/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/4c1462b7-ea1c-4a3=
6-be81-7c3719157fabn@googlegroups.com/>>
> >>>       >>          [6]
> >>>       >>
> >>>      https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/a116fba3-5948-48d2...@googlegro=
ups.com/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/a116fba3-5948-48d2...@googlegrou=
ps.com/> <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/a116fba3-5948-48d2-a787-639a3564=
d006n@googlegroups.com/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/a116fba3-5948-48d=
2-a787-639a3564d006n@googlegroups.com/>>
> >>>       >>          [7]
> >>>       >>
> >>>      https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/846b668f-8386-4869...@googlegro=
ups.com/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/846b668f-8386-4869...@googlegrou=
ps.com/> <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/846b668f-8386-4869-a3b1-55d346ef=
bea1n@googlegroups.com/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/846b668f-8386-486=
9-a3b1-55d346efbea1n@googlegroups.com/>>
> >>>       >>          [8]
> >>>       >>
> >>>      https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/CALeFGL1-LKPWd7YRS110ut8tX=3Dwr=
uqgLEazRA5...@mail.gmail.com/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/CALeFGL1-LK=
PWd7YRS110ut8tX=3DwruqgLEazRA5...@mail.gmail.com/> <https://gnusha.org/pi/b=
itcoindev/CALeFGL1-LKPWd7YRS110ut8tX=3DwruqgLEazRA5nVw9siYCPj4A@mail.gmail.=
com/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/CALeFGL1-LKPWd7YRS110ut8tX=3DwruqgLE=
azRA5nVw9siYCPj4A@mail.gmail.com/>>
> >>>       >>          [9]
> >>>      https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ZgePPvbf...@petertodd.org/
> >>>      <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ZgePPvbf...@petertodd.org/>
> >>>       >>
> >>>      <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ZgePPvbfrr4wZG7k@petertodd.org=
/
> >>>      <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ZgePPvbfrr4wZG7k@petertodd.org=
/>>
> >>>       >>          [10]
> >>>       >>
> >>>      https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/f9435999-42df-46b5...@mattcoral=
lo.com/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/f9435999-42df-46b5...@mattcorallo=
.com/> <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/f9435999-42df-46b5-86e2-7ba0336a9b=
f2@mattcorallo.com/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/f9435999-42df-46b5-86=
e2-7ba0336a9bf2@mattcorallo.com/>>
> >>>       >>          [11]
> >>>      https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ZgWRu32FXzqqg69V@console/
> >>>      <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ZgWRu32FXzqqg69V@console/>
> >>>       >>
> >>>      <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ZgWRu32FXzqqg69V@console/
> >>>      <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ZgWRu32FXzqqg69V@console/>>
> >>>       >>          [12]
> >>>       >>
> >>>      https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/CALZpt+E8DohYEJ9aO+FiF6+E...@ma=
il.gmail.com/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/CALZpt+E8DohYEJ9aO+FiF6+E..=
.@mail.gmail.com/> <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/CALZpt+E8DohYEJ9aO+FiF=
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ndev/CALZpt+E8DohYEJ9aO+FiF6+EKMCP5oEbHSKSXpq0VKVBhJLhrw@mail.gmail.com/>>
> >>>       >>          [13]
> >>>       >>
> >>>      https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/53a0015c-b76a-441a...@murch.one=
/
> >>>      <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/53a0015c-b76a-441a...@murch.on=
e/>
> >>>      <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/53a0015c-b76a-441a-920b-32bd88=
d5e778@murch.one/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/53a0015c-b76a-441a-920b=
-32bd88d5e778@murch.one/>>
> >>>       >>          [14]
> >>>       >>
> >>>      https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ae482890-bce3-468f...@achow101.=
com/
> >>>      <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ae482890-bce3-468f...@achow101=
.com/> <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ae482890-bce3-468f-866d-c555b80b06=
44@achow101.com/ <https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ae482890-bce3-468f-866d-=
c555b80b0644@achow101.com/>>
> >>>       >>          [15]
> >>>       >>
> >>>      https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ppBS1tfMU3SFX85kmIBVBd0WpT5Wof_=
oSBXsuizh7692AUDw2TojfvCqvcvlmsy9E69qfWMxK-UZWawf8IDApPqF7bXOH4gwU1c2jS4xoj=
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> >>>       >>          [16]
> >>>       >>
> >>>      https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/ad284018-e99c-4552...@googlegro=
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> >>>       >>          [17]
> >>>       >>
> >>>      https://gnusha.org/pi/bitcoindev/CAMHHROw9mZJRnTbUo76PdqwJU=3D=
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