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charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 10:30:39PM +0200, Ruben Somsen via bitcoin-dev wrot= e: > >demand that a notification transaction meets some minimum miner fee >=20 > Note that this mechanism is not safe against miners, as they can pay > themselves arbitrarily high fees with no downside. Block space is relatively expensive, so maybe it's enough that the spammer = has to publish at all. 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