Return-Path: <contact@taoeffect.com> Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DBC2AB6E for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Wed, 7 Jun 2017 00:04:32 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from homiemail-a38.g.dreamhost.com (homie.mail.dreamhost.com [208.97.132.208]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F2D6EB for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Wed, 7 Jun 2017 00:04:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from homiemail-a38.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a38.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99DA710AFB5; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 17:04:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=taoeffect.com; h= content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; s=taoeffect.com; bh=Z0nTP5UynwDXaDFbE MndZrWtUaY=; b=vy7PR+N7sF7qYjbt63i8ZiguB4LC7wfNYJYjQSUoYENjtOhio DmiRhch0Pvgz7GzGzkJc/XIo0H2F2b65SmzyE5z0qxbzjLpjLEh+psPnq6KtXVeY m9InFUyUZi5GwAPqm9OffrerEOA7xZsSZJqKxzOMdoG7VTxGHPfv0OEq64= Received: from [192.168.42.64] (184-23-255-227.fiber.dynamic.sonic.net [184.23.255.227]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: contact@taoeffect.com) by homiemail-a38.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4C37510AFB0; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 17:04:30 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_8873578A-63CE-4DFC-9517-A2C5C707A1D2"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) From: Tao Effect <contact@taoeffect.com> In-Reply-To: <w5Ywd9qPblH4-m68BQC58FfV4fNFOCPUkUIOsNOz8-0uJQLjIaG5JevhRv1x_0cqtcZvRsKYQTy-EuBTjzJL-DuSX7dsHuoMfw-68cweBOk=@protonmail.com> Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2017 17:04:29 -0700 X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 518486669.411256-911b9b3cfcc932781873488b18192e58 Message-Id: <78F1D626-0D38-48FD-B2AF-378765182751@taoeffect.com> References: <31833011-7179-49D1-A07E-8FD9556C4534@taoeffect.com> <20170606232015.GA11830@erisian.com.au> <38DDC3A2-2727-477E-A6FF-7638842AAB03@taoeffect.com> <w5Ywd9qPblH4-m68BQC58FfV4fNFOCPUkUIOsNOz8-0uJQLjIaG5JevhRv1x_0cqtcZvRsKYQTy-EuBTjzJL-DuSX7dsHuoMfw-68cweBOk=@protonmail.com> To: Kekcoin <kekcoin@protonmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 07 Jun 2017 00:07:18 +0000 Cc: "bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>, Anthony Towns <aj@erisian.com.au> Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Replay attacks make BIP148 and BIP149 untennable X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev.lists.linuxfoundation.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/options/bitcoin-dev>, <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/> List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev>, <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2017 00:04:33 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_8873578A-63CE-4DFC-9517-A2C5C707A1D2 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_478A5B32-6D74-4181-9F21-E0D07BA474A1" --Apple-Mail=_478A5B32-6D74-4181-9F21-E0D07BA474A1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > You keep referring to 148 coinbase coins, what is the rationale behind = this? Why would you prefer using 148 coinbases over legacy coinbases for = this purpose? OK, maybe "post-UASF coinbase coins" is a better term? I just wanted to = make it clear that this refers to coins that come from blocks generated = after the UASF is activated. -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also = sharing with the NSA. > On Jun 6, 2017, at 4:59 PM, Kekcoin <kekcoin@protonmail.com = <mailto:kekcoin@protonmail.com>> wrote: >=20 > You keep referring to 148 coinbase coins, what is the rationale behind = this? Why would you prefer using 148 coinbases over legacy coinbases for = this purpose? >=20 >=20 > Sent with ProtonMail <https://protonmail.com/> Secure Email. --Apple-Mail=_478A5B32-6D74-4181-9F21-E0D07BA474A1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html = charset=3Dus-ascii"><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html= charset=3Dus-ascii"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; = -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" = class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">You keep = referring to 148 coinbase coins, what is the rationale behind this? Why = would you prefer using 148 coinbases over legacy coinbases for this = purpose?</div></blockquote><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>OK, = maybe "post-UASF coinbase coins" is a better term? I just wanted to make = it clear that this refers to coins that come from blocks generated after = the UASF is activated.<br class=3D""><div class=3D""> <span style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: = normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; = font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; = font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; = line-height: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2;" class=3D""><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline">--</span><br style=3D"color: rgb(0, = 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; = font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; = font-variant-east-asian: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; = widows: 2;" class=3D""><span style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: = Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; = font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; = font-variant-east-asian: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; = widows: 2;" class=3D"">Please do not email me anything that you are not = comfortable also sharing</span><span style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); = font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; = font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; = font-variant-east-asian: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; = widows: 2;" class=3D""> with the NSA.</span> </div> <br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div = class=3D"">On Jun 6, 2017, at 4:59 PM, Kekcoin <<a = href=3D"mailto:kekcoin@protonmail.com" = class=3D"">kekcoin@protonmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div class=3D"">You = keep referring to 148 coinbase coins, what is the rationale behind this? = Why would you prefer using 148 coinbases over legacy coinbases for this = purpose?<br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div = class=3D" protonmail_signature_block"><div = class=3D"protonmail_signature_block-user = protonmail_signature_block-empty"><br class=3D""></div><div = class=3D"protonmail_signature_block-proton ">Sent with <a = href=3D"https://protonmail.com/" class=3D"">ProtonMail</a> Secure = Email.<br class=3D""></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br = class=3D""></body></html>= --Apple-Mail=_478A5B32-6D74-4181-9F21-E0D07BA474A1-- --Apple-Mail=_8873578A-63CE-4DFC-9517-A2C5C707A1D2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJZN0MNAAoJEOxnICvpCVJHqM4QAJxkVzXlZsKntncjIm9197iJ M/tpuBGx9JOQpzcf9j2xwdFAfEAeOqfpkK8jlrodiqDW446S8TOFmfhoWmWrNiZE DQIsGF4aHIylpv9BlPdo3JTA2gFi9Q+OP0MTc16TwG5+cTeH0ldQcaRXzsTrTELi VT3y2FRd+wDMwb3rWPzVBwbTe0tnkSUb5J3cd/3z+62BbGusRtsxYoru7aveKSpE mGCQG9n9aBO0xcP0/9+qV9t+V4QwpRiCQTfBY9uKjyqkP5Fmen0QzyFNluqv8SDq Lgyhf+RIgnx2yThReLjhvi4101Jh8fmICkHltVLjIp7zJCuMrz5OfzRPaNsSkv8S tKPf24Res8r6vYJCwiTnsRB/YA0PDSS7heJ4lvpaz+cZdDzG4yTellfLcyHNdSUX da9xaN8xk2oPJjEIlRgbS8xiOAzIKJbkZBFVrY7Hb/G+SBLrN8n5cMxCfAdsFR3e eivqUsF2fUzqpN/AdCRvogjqvNxQ0j8DM/2enxF3nBMUmeMiC9z2sMr1qkMFgIK4 LhYamXCLW+LnB9Bt4ZJGnYeFUizUyry4YrC/geW1RQwxmKPgd4XBx7/GWMAdUhtE 1bsuWmQP0k+9OSAKtXJ9nJOEabe8iAtk68fClBbZKgIggqfqiOWMazb2RyRiZE+w AcJiR7Y7mfRfXqJxSxmw =brYZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_8873578A-63CE-4DFC-9517-A2C5C707A1D2--