Return-Path: Received: from smtp4.osuosl.org (smtp4.osuosl.org [IPv6:2605:bc80:3010::137]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC2F8C0032; Sun, 17 Sep 2023 11:33:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3187416A2; Sun, 17 Sep 2023 11:33:06 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 smtp4.osuosl.org A3187416A2 Authentication-Results: smtp4.osuosl.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=q32-com.20230601.gappssmtp.com header.i=@q32-com.20230601.gappssmtp.com header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=20230601 header.b=U6xAUlvH X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.399 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from smtp4.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp4.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K_httJno7_4I; Sun, 17 Sep 2023 11:33:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yw1-x112b.google.com (mail-yw1-x112b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::112b]) by smtp4.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A043E416D0; Sun, 17 Sep 2023 11:33:05 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 smtp4.osuosl.org A043E416D0 Received: by mail-yw1-x112b.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-59c4eca8a9cso2063837b3.0; Sun, 17 Sep 2023 04:33:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=q32-com.20230601.gappssmtp.com; s=20230601; t=1694950384; x=1695555184; darn=lists.linuxfoundation.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Wg0MQUKFQLxzA2JNy0uWu1pis4A0BvYSrOTxEJNb7/c=; b=U6xAUlvH6KwDv+mJhUOz/w6SyqphoFCVaEJe8CnVKuVfeguwScXoHbKNc0PkTIrgho C9VlsqFafXUC1+KPqeSU04tDGc/3NPlTvhDKaWXLt1+5tfTuCdAtSkbJBQUFRgfToXlw HlJVNZWqNhqFEv6dEzbjAmWZ08UnvZv4Wz1kmeQ4qeM5STlWzMEOgyJwKbuALBWhX2Uz D45WVmbKXBrr1mKZObEY2olblrGw5S4JISIe/EOVsJ4y+uL4HTLsudGRMsJAg91TyPdX t4TrCnYldeyZJcTnt7YLHN6htR9GWW4dnuwT8n5Elx0tvsk3xyAaQ3yixHs/B0vNrHq4 6RhA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1694950384; x=1695555184; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=Wg0MQUKFQLxzA2JNy0uWu1pis4A0BvYSrOTxEJNb7/c=; b=w7ouv/i5NtEk0lbbRYsIeLfOscd/9yyx4LoajT9AMqIx+utsq13f17kR1SeWdH5GUb blc9qEb8Xho2iGR0KQ3KyJjuNHI5qTAQN8lQW5ZiQoNXd/i+tY/jqC/7IvqQvshhbvwH xBAzTV+iV8rznaKSKyLKgq6v2DMRUzOiXNgeToIL0BdFrZ9HNWM9hxtBeVc5QucGILR+ zJ09VInV3WP/1NiftMc4OgGDYR14ahGBRpwIAJ+SPpaGONydnSKAiu46S3iN0VtCKjKv lrYWlitUsAmq2itYeEig08GX7mVUWVGkBJrrXGmorLNDf5XlXDfbDTlVW6FCxWxZhvuH Kbjg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxBSzVoR3rI+aLHyRvzs8j98fnu3ElJYZfSwN9BwtB1l/cayOsF 6BfoqW6lYaTspJxZM+XD3nxo8CJytmjiUmE0KSY00RA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IExgJDyAywDc1B3ydafjFQG5JzOLpy3KYOFJJRelxhdoKCjklRZgzB4zdiJv8R+2olwfhUVg6EkFVNTO1WgN38= X-Received: by 2002:a0d:d541:0:b0:59c:afb:26a2 with SMTP id x62-20020a0dd541000000b0059c0afb26a2mr4494903ywd.0.1694950384423; Sun, 17 Sep 2023 04:33:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Erik Aronesty Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 07:32:52 -0400 Message-ID: To: Antoine Riard , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000093585106058c636e" X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 18 Sep 2023 12:54:18 +0000 Cc: lightning-dev Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Scaling Lightning With Simple Covenants X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 11:33:06 -0000 --00000000000093585106058c636e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > replacing CTV usage with Musig2 > > this changes the trust model to a federated one vs trustless and also increases the on-chain footprint of failure, correct? > --00000000000093585106058c636e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 
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