Return-Path: <pete@petertodd.org> Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A9131BC8 for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Sat, 27 Jun 2015 15:14:20 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from outmail149084.authsmtp.net (outmail149084.authsmtp.net [62.13.149.84]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14131118 for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Sat, 27 Jun 2015 15:14:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-c235.authsmtp.com (mail-c235.authsmtp.com [62.13.128.235]) by punt18.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/) with ESMTP id t5RFECf4086936; Sat, 27 Jun 2015 16:14:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from [33.91.28.142] (mf62d36d0.tmodns.net [208.54.45.246]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/) with ESMTP id t5RFEAh6094052 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 27 Jun 2015 16:14:11 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: <CACq0ZD5S6dDcBh9fsHCgbPJXom4vF8VymtHXogODjfD38RDNfA@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAPg+sBjOj9eXiDG0F6G54SVKkStF_1HRu2wzGqtFF5X_NAWy4w@mail.gmail.com> <CADm_Wca+ow4pMzN7SyKjsMdFo0wuUerYYjf5xKs5G_2Q2PzMmA@mail.gmail.com> <CAPg+sBg=sn7djO_8H16NDg7S7m7_0eTcrgLVofMWQ2ANz+jw9w@mail.gmail.com> <CADm_WcbQog_UCV=JPHyqTRxKbaGY7jedtHE_D8jJSe_thMg05w@mail.gmail.com> <CAPg+sBhrBUSfPdMjbLthLEFD17zBC3LoWf9LvZsOD1Vp0D78BQ@mail.gmail.com> <558DA56F.3010703@jrn.me.uk> <20150626193630.GB17829@muck> <558E3EFD.9040602@ktorn.com> <CACq0ZD5S6dDcBh9fsHCgbPJXom4vF8VymtHXogODjfD38RDNfA@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 From: Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 15:13:54 +0000 To: Aaron Voisine <voisine@gmail.com>, Filipe Farinha <filipe@ktorn.com> Message-ID: <9BD77EB3-8EC7-4207-8E90-98E48C8365DE@petertodd.org> X-Server-Quench: 2a8cc7ee-1cdf-11e5-b396-002590a15da7 X-AuthReport-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCd2Yg0TA1ZNQRgX IjsJECJaVQIpKltL GxAVKBZePFsRUQkR aQdMdAUUEkAaAgsB AmMbWlJeUVl7WGE7 aQpZcwBZfE5LQQdu VldNRFdNFUssBH53 c29GVBl7cwVDejB4 Y0BmEHIKVBcpchMo X08HQTsbZGY1bX1N U0leagNUcgZDfk5E bwQuUz1vNG8XDSg5 AwQ0PjZ0MThBHWxp QgxFK18fTQ4FGSR0 QxkYEjg1VUcBQC4w NHQA X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633532353630.1023:706 X-AuthFastPath: 0 (Was 255) X-AuthSMTP-Origin: 208.54.45.246/465 X-AuthVirus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] The need for larger blocks X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion <bitcoin-dev.lists.linuxfoundation.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/options/bitcoin-dev>, <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/> List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev>, <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 15:14:20 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 27 June 2015 03:14:41 GMT-04:00, Aaron Voisine <voisine@gmail.com> wrote: >Also remember that the sender is not the one who cares about delays or >even >getting confirmations at all, it's the receiver who's concerned with >these >things. They have to tell the sender up-front what they're willing to >accept in exchange for goods and services. You're assuming a receiver who is accepting a zeroconf transaction; most receivers don't. For instance, when I deposit funds on my exchange they don't credit those funds until 4 confirmations, so I very much cafe about how long it takes to get the first confirmation. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQE9BAEBCAAnIBxQZXRlciBUb2RkIDxwZXRlQHBldGVydG9kZC5vcmc+BQJVjr2g AAoJEMCF8hzn9Lnc47AIAJBa5O+H+XEqok4j8AEly9rjAMmdcOrqJSoNvtCj897l R34cN/5SfYIRpvFoyBKXfY+xo0RR/42VM08uju+vvCAvImiwOyrUNPTS2TmDdE3M PTGgQrYIctQxTcek9VL8TV94bHns+kJxMiOySdsOA+7NLl0oKoNKoHhYbbWPcn/+ 13p+su2Xi/ydO6HjHHxR/3kpQE4q8tupGDH0ZaPUijyd04uvB4GK4pPA5P7EeM9b ixXB8aZnSYhbVnknUFfcTBLHzo70BQbTh0QFTZCOkNSwIoBfyEhd53IZ+BfJGbLo 2K2VcMHeVU91Zbg+rgKNfGuLQvr5hEfZIkqZckXDj6I= =B/YW -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----