Received: from sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.191] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-2.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from <c1.sf-bitcoin@niftybox.net>) id 1Z4tTa-0002vI-MT for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 16:12:38 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of niftybox.net designates 95.142.167.147 as permitted sender) client-ip=95.142.167.147; envelope-from=c1.sf-bitcoin@niftybox.net; helo=i3.hyper.to; Received: from i3.hyper.to ([95.142.167.147]) by sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) id 1Z4tTZ-0004Gc-BF for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 16:12:38 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by i3.hyper.to (Postfix) with ESMTP id 826B5E01C4; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 17:52:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from i3.hyper.to ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (i3.hyper.to [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id yz13OqI0S1F3; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 17:52:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by i3.hyper.to (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CC2BE01D2; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 17:52:49 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at i3.hyper.to Received: from i3.hyper.to ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (i3.hyper.to [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id LPiV3aIm_XCc; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 17:52:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.4.81] (50-1-105-186.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com [50.1.105.186]) by i3.hyper.to (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A1415E01C4; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 17:52:48 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <5580464D.6020904@niftybox.net> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 08:52:45 -0700 From: devrandom <c1.sf-bitcoin@niftybox.net> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aaron Voisine <voisine@gmail.com>, Justus Ranvier <justusranvier@riseup.net> References: <CALqxMTHrnSS9MGgKO-5+=fVhiOOvk12Recs11S0PcSUxQT1wdQ@mail.gmail.com> <CA+c4Zoy6U9RXH3Qw15sXXnaeYL-9PFbnTp=VLAJsvpC_zoAK_A@mail.gmail.com> <CAEY8wq41ftFA1ObyUWiRGOgebwqDCAw_j+hU6_wfcXv5GSZaJw@mail.gmail.com> <201506160341.10994.luke@dashjr.org> <CAEY8wq4SOddGUJNqkrdhhfQEn4tXehCWiifk-P=PYUdfFcXFTQ@mail.gmail.com> <a9e2e033c786fb7f99bcf7505ad45f21@riseup.net> <CACq0ZD5uYikAfVuep8XCgEs-53NbF-SYhvm4qneZsEQdgd=6rw@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CACq0ZD5uYikAfVuep8XCgEs-53NbF-SYhvm4qneZsEQdgd=6rw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record X-Headers-End: 1Z4tTZ-0004Gc-BF Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] The Bitcoin Node Market X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <bitcoin-development.lists.sourceforge.net> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=bitcoin-development> List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 16:12:38 -0000 On 2015-06-16 12:55 AM, Aaron Voisine wrote: >> Suppose a billion mobile phones wanted to run SPV wallets tomorrow. Who >> would provide the nodes they would need connect to? > > The SPV wallet author would if they wanted their wallet to function. I would also guess that the cost to provide service to SPV wallets is less than $0.01/mo per wallet and in any case less than long-term transaction fees. This can either be taken up by the wallet author or transparently through a payment channel by the user. > > > Aaron Voisine > co-founder and CEO > breadwallet.com <http://breadwallet.com> -- devrandom / Miron