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[2a00:1450:4864:20::135]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5b1f17b1804b1-43ea9794b11si1995515e9.1.2025.04.04.10.58.50 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 04 Apr 2025 10:58:50 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: none (google.com: nothingmuch@woobling.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::135; Received: by mail-lf1-x135.google.com with SMTP id 2adb3069b0e04-54afb5fcebaso2644194e87.3 for ; Fri, 04 Apr 2025 10:58:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncvd+nNx5lGj531EUuxCQNip1QTcynHvBpyuguWpMQheeFaDKnm82ntwmpmfO7V JCked4+2Zi9CUszcAq5tBPK1vBHKw9k0JrOeTx4yYUPqabV/jlyH5JtCo3YuixX3smWVJZL2kYP uGBI3lV5oNXPaL//fHsqjNqfeAAw== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:b84:b0:549:9078:dd45 with SMTP id 2adb3069b0e04-54c297e8925mr69408e87.28.1743789529328; Fri, 04 Apr 2025 10:58:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Yuval Kogman Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2025 19:58:37 +0200 X-Gm-Features: ATxdqUFdrPtitIU4x4b_iE-sRTb5OKNFBUHvHw1nnQCaEAkH2EOqW7QViKyf1L0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bitcoindev] Reiterating centralized coinjoin (Wasabi & Samourai) deanonymization attacks To: Peter Todd Cc: Bitcoin Development Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Original-Sender: nothingmuch@woobling.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@woobling.org header.s=google header.b=a48Q5E4s; spf=none (google.com: nothingmuch@woobling.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) smtp.mailfrom=nothingmuch@woobling.org; dara=pass header.i=@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bitcoindev@googlegroups.com; contact bitcoindev+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 786775582512 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) That's 3 months after Kruw'd coordinator started operating, 2 months after his podcast appearance which I linked to, and 7 months after the change was merged despite NACKs, as I have already stated in the very same email you are quoting: > During most of the zksnack's coordinator run, that surplus went > towards *mining* fees, and was widely understood to do so. This part > is entirely server side policy, and possible due to gaps in the > protocol and the client implementation. The coordinator software was > modified to claim those excess mining fees with no justification of > overruling cNACK that had led to it being not merged 6 months prior > https://github.com/WalletWasabi/WalletWasabi/pull/10884#pullrequestreview-1485776991 > and that was only publicly documented around 7 months later, after the > zksnacks coordinator shutdown and the removal of explicit coordinator > fees https://github.com/WalletWasabi/WasabiDoc/pull/1841/files and > only fully clarified a month after that > https://github.com/WalletWasabi/WasabiDoc/pull/1859 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Bitcoin Development Mailing List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bitcoindev+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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