Return-Path: <mark@friedenbach.org> Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 229551758 for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Wed, 23 Sep 2015 18:10:33 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-ig0-f169.google.com (mail-ig0-f169.google.com [209.85.213.169]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 41232A9 for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Wed, 23 Sep 2015 18:10:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by igxx6 with SMTP id x6so33058244igx.1 for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Wed, 23 Sep 2015 11:10:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=WLIACSNraTbvg04x7hrv5V6MSvSylJil2F3odLAzW44=; b=SgiIEJ/v6poEWBjBhH6T1gbqcs9il2HDJj8JAPcu75kMAKwLXzBtH9iRYiwR/wmzTB 5gKsuN1JGSa81aMqdS94JdMxh5AuKxETFenImksh4lHWssVCAM0WygsxDcXmNQ6eimEL ct66MmPCZRZdqkW9nBlY9MFdFYm4+UVo1wmibO7LDT5vC/1cGt5x1v+VYADBKsSemFRG 2cGIg1pxbzI2naBDFbRtUWKIwGsk2m2KRPqZ4eFZC4LnoTavqcUG5o0bSPII6jsqKJ5E USFJFgEtN2PBgT6ESAVRrwL92Jo8uDUNlHCfLlWqlVLuW6fb9rtxqATsJaqYdA+w7w6N wvGA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm+qkpyR98lbW27eID4+oPnwArXj/fUCvlPgTRdjUcparg0jwiPet+9vfSTdAykNF/Fth76 X-Received: by 10.50.102.4 with SMTP id fk4mr26152631igb.46.1443031831393; Wed, 23 Sep 2015 11:10:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.107.135.104 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Sep 2015 11:10:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [173.228.107.141] In-Reply-To: <CAAMhxnw8J8nZbWPBEA9HOfJH0iiWO3uvD_frJ089R1kcbhciSg@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAAMhxnzWTNMQVcziTx9f4AYE0rvi8y2JKbYRF5t_ds4esx=Jkw@mail.gmail.com> <CAOG=w-uzmC3-2vYbSYDwvDhhP0FyC72G2dBVuj83zBMhqrvGOA@mail.gmail.com> <CAAMhxnw8J8nZbWPBEA9HOfJH0iiWO3uvD_frJ089R1kcbhciSg@mail.gmail.com> From: Mark Friedenbach <mark@friedenbach.org> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 11:10:12 -0700 Message-ID: <CAOG=w-uCLHEMHkGz8TGEPuqs0AshX+c=xt2VciCF5qkVdoRn-A@mail.gmail.com> To: Roy Osherove <roy@osherove.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b11198db5df9f05206e076e X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,WEIRD_PORT autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] CI Build for Bitcoin - Some Basic Questions about Gitian and other stuff X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion <bitcoin-dev.lists.linuxfoundation.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/options/bitcoin-dev>, <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/> List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev>, <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 18:10:33 -0000 --047d7b11198db5df9f05206e076e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Well the gitian builds are made available on bitcoin.org. If you mean a build server where gitian builds are automatically done and made available, well that rather defeats the point of gitian. The quorum signatures are accumulated here: https://github.com/bitcoin/gitian.sigs (it's a manual process). On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Roy Osherove <roy@osherove.com> wrote: > Thanks Mark. > Is there a public server where the gitian builds can be viewed? > Is there a public server that shows the quorum verifications or that shows > how to join in on the verification if such as thing is helpful? > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Mark Friedenbach <mark@friedenbach.org> > wrote: > >> The builds made by Travis are for the purpose of making sure that the >> source code compiles and tests run successfully on all supported platforms. >> The binaries are not used anywhere else because Travis is not a trusted >> platform. >> >> The binaries on bitcoin.org are built using the gitian process and >> signed by a quorum of developers. >> >> On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 10:13 AM, Roy Osherove via bitcoin-dev < >> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: >> >>> Hi Folks. >>> I'm trying my hand at creating a reproducible build of my own for >>> bitcoin and bitcoin-XT, using TeamCity. >>> I believe it is the best way to learn something: To try to build it >>> yourself. >>> Here is what I think I know so far, and I would love corrections, plus >>> questions: >>> >>> 1. Bitcoin is built continuously on travis-CI at >>> https://travis-ci.org/bitcoin/bitcoin/ >>> 2. there are many flavors that are built, but I'm not sure if all >>> of them are actually used/necessary. are they all needed, or just to "just >>> in case"? >>> 3. There is a gitian build file for bitcoin, but is anyone actually >>> using it? are the bin files on bitcoin.org taken from that? or the >>> travis ci builds? or some other place? >>> 4. Are there any things that people would love to have in the build >>> that do not exist there today? perhaps I can help with that? >>> >>> Here is what I have now: http://btcdev.osherove.com:8111/ >>> It does not do the matrix build yet, but it's coming. I'm just wondering >>> if all the platforms need to be supported,and if gitian is truly required >>> to be used, or used in parallel, or at all.. >>> >>> Feedback appreciated. >>> >>> -- >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Roy Osherove >>> >>> - *@RoyOsherove* <https://twitter.com/RoyOsherove> >>> - Read my new book *Notes to a Software Team Leader >>> <http://TeamLeadSkills.com>* >>> - Or *my new course* about Beautiful Builds >>> <http://courses.osherove.com> and Continuous Delivery >>> - +1-201-256-5575 >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> bitcoin-dev mailing list >>> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org >>> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev >>> >>> >> > > > -- > Thanks, > > Roy Osherove > > - *@RoyOsherove* <https://twitter.com/RoyOsherove> > - Read my new book *Notes to a Software Team Leader > <http://TeamLeadSkills.com>* > - Or *my new course* about Beautiful Builds > <http://courses.osherove.com> and Continuous Delivery > - +1-201-256-5575 > - Timezone: Eastern Standard Time (New York) > > > --047d7b11198db5df9f05206e076e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Well the gitian builds are made available on <a href= =3D"http://bitcoin.org" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin.org</a>. If you mean a bu= ild server where gitian builds are automatically done and made available, w= ell that rather defeats the point of gitian.<br><br></div>The quorum signat= ures are accumulated here: <a href=3D"https://github.com/bitcoin/gitian.sig= s">https://github.com/bitcoin/gitian.sigs</a> (it's a manual process).<= br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, = Sep 23, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Roy Osherove <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mai= lto:roy@osherove.com" target=3D"_blank">roy@osherove.com</a>></span> wro= te:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-= left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks Mark.<div>Is = there a public server where the gitian builds can be viewed?=C2=A0</div><di= v>Is there a public server that shows the quorum verifications or that show= s how to join in on the verification if such as thing is helpful?</div></di= v><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div><div class=3D"h5"><br><div class=3D"gmail= _quote">On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Mark Friedenbach <span dir=3D"ltr= "><<a href=3D"mailto:mark@friedenbach.org" target=3D"_blank">mark@friede= nbach.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style= =3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir= =3D"ltr"><div>The builds made by Travis are for the purpose of making sure = that the source code compiles and tests run successfully on all supported p= latforms. The binaries are not used anywhere else because Travis is not a t= rusted platform.<br><br></div>The binaries on <a href=3D"http://bitcoin.org= " target=3D"_blank">bitcoin.org</a> are built using the gitian process and = signed by a quorum of developers.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><= div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><div>On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 10:13 AM, Roy O= sherove via bitcoin-dev <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev= @lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfounda= tion.org</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu= ote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex= "><div><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Folks.<div>I'm trying my hand at creati= ng a reproducible build of my own for bitcoin and bitcoin-XT, using TeamCit= y.</div><div>I believe it is the best way to learn something: To try to bui= ld it yourself.</div><div>Here is what I think I know so far, and I would l= ove corrections, plus questions:</div><div><ol><li>Bitcoin is built continu= ously on travis-CI at=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://travis-ci.org/bitcoin/bitcoin= /" target=3D"_blank">https://travis-ci.org/bitcoin/bitcoin/</a><br></li><li= >=C2=A0there are many flavors that are built, but I'm not sure if all o= f them are actually used/necessary. are they all needed, or just to "j= ust in case"?<br></li><li>=C2=A0There is a gitian build file for bitco= in, but is anyone actually using it? are the bin files on <a href=3D"http:/= /bitcoin.org" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin.org</a> taken from that? or the tra= vis ci builds? or some other place?</li><li>Are there any things that peopl= e would love to have in the build that do not exist there today? perhaps I = can help with that?</li></ol><div>Here is what I have now:=C2=A0<a href=3D"= http://btcdev.osherove.com:8111/" target=3D"_blank">http://btcdev.osherove.= com:8111/</a></div></div><div>It does not do the matrix build yet, but it&#= 39;s coming. I'm just wondering if all the platforms need to be support= ed,and if gitian is truly required to be used, or used in parallel, or at a= ll..</div><div><br></div><div>Feedback appreciated.</div><span><font color= =3D"#888888"><div><br></div><div>-- <br><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir= =3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks,<br><br>Roy Osherove<br><br>=C2=A0=C2= =A0 - <a href=3D"https://twitter.com/RoyOsherove" target=3D"_blank"><b>@Roy= Osherove</b></a><br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0- Read my new book <b><a href=3D"http://Te= amLeadSkills.com" target=3D"_blank">Notes to a Software Team Leader</a></b>= <div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0- Or <a href=3D"http://courses.osherove.com" target= =3D"_blank"><b>my new course</b> about Beautiful Builds</a> and Continuous = Delivery<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0- <a href=3D"tel:%2B1-201-256-5575" value=3D"+1201= 2565575" target=3D"_blank">+1-201-256-5575</a> =C2=A0</div><div><br><br></d= iv></div></div></div></div></div></div></div> </div></font></span></div> <br></div></div>_______________________________________________<br> bitcoin-dev mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">= bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a><br> <a href=3D"https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev" = rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mail= man/listinfo/bitcoin-dev</a><br> <br></blockquote></div><br></div> </blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br></div></div>= <div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div= class=3D"h5">Thanks,<br><br>Roy Osherove<br><br>=C2=A0=C2=A0 - <a href=3D"= https://twitter.com/RoyOsherove" target=3D"_blank"><b>@RoyOsherove</b></a><= br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0- Read my new book <b><a href=3D"http://TeamLeadSkills.com"= target=3D"_blank">Notes to a Software Team Leader</a></b></div></div><div>= <div><div class=3D"h5"><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0- Or <a href=3D"http://courses.osh= erove.com" target=3D"_blank"><b>my new course</b> about Beautiful Builds</a= > and Continuous Delivery<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0- <a href=3D"tel:%2B1-201-256-557= 5" value=3D"+12012565575" target=3D"_blank">+1-201-256-5575</a> =C2=A0</div= ></div></div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 - Timezone: Eastern Standard Time (New York= )<br><br><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div> </div> </blockquote></div><br></div> --047d7b11198db5df9f05206e076e--