Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7FB8E847 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 21:51:51 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from ns3094582.localdomain (outbound.chino.ws [91.121.200.135]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DA291F5 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 21:51:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-f182.google.com (mail-ig0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by ns3094582.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F0E1381982 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 19:46:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by igxp17 with SMTP id p17so116109707igx.1 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 14:51:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.143.108 with SMTP id sd12mr1086006igb.47.1440021107984; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 14:51:47 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: bitdev@theochino.com Received: by 10.36.156.6 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 14:51:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <6DB69CF6-A97C-4E9F-90BE-50DD24EE6113@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 17:51:47 -0400 Message-ID: From: Theo Chino To: Hector Chu Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1135e07e9c55e3051db10a0e X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] bitcoin-dev list etiquette X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 21:51:51 -0000 --001a1135e07e9c55e3051db10a0e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And this is why I love Bitcoin, politics + technical =3D all in one. Regards, Theo Chino https://www.facebook.com/groups/557495624389384 (politics in NYS about bitcoin.) http://frenchmorning.com/en/2014/08/18/french-robin-hood-bitcoin-new-york On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Hector Chu via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > Haha. Reminds me of when I asked Gavin earlier this year about whether > he cared about politics and he replied that he only cared about and > was responsible for the technicals. Little did he know he would > unwittingly become the technical enabler for Mike's political > shenanigans. > > On 19 August 2015 at 21:19, Eric Lombrozo via bitcoin-dev > wrote: > > Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being > governed > > by those who are dumber. > > - Plato > > > > On Aug 19, 2015, at 1:11 PM, Eric Lombrozo wrote: > > > > Alex, > > > > With all due respect, right now the biggest challenge facing Bitcoin is > not > > technical but political. I would love to see this list go back to > technical > > discussions, but unfortunately, until this political stuff is resolved, > even > > technical discussion is purely philosophical as there=E2=80=99s little = chance of > > actually making good progress on consensus=E2=80=A6which in a space whe= re > everything > > depends on consensus pretty much makes everything else moot. > > > > On Aug 19, 2015, at 1:08 PM, Alex Morcos via bitcoin-dev > > wrote: > > > > This is a message that I wrote and had hoped that all the core devs wou= ld > > sign on to, but I failed to finish organizing it. So I'll just say it > from > > myself. > > > > There has been a valuable discussion over the last several months > regarding > > a hard fork with respect to block size. However the sheer volume of > email > > and proportion of discussion that is more philosophical than technical > has > > rendered this list almost unusable for its primary purpose of technical > > discussion related to Bitcoin development. Many of us share the blame > for > > letting the discourse run off topic to such a degree, and we hope that = an > > appeal for individual self restraint will allow this list to return to = a > > higher signal-to-noise ratio. > > -Please consider the degree to which any email you send is related to > > technical development before sending it. > > -Please consider how many emails you are sending to this list regarding > the > > same topic. > > This list is not appropriate for an endless back and forth debate on th= e > > philosophical underpinnings of Bitcoin. Although such a debate may be > > worthwhile it should be taken to another forum for discussion. Every > email > > you send is received by hundreds of developers who value their time as > much > > as you value yours. If your intended audience isn't really the majorit= y > of > > them, perhaps private communication would be more appropriate. > > > > Thanks, > > Alex > > > > _______________________________________________ > > bitcoin-dev mailing list > > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > bitcoin-dev mailing list > > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > bitcoin-dev mailing list > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev > --001a1135e07e9c55e3051db10a0e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
And this is why I love Bitcoin, politi= cs + technical =3D all in one.

Regards,
Theo Ch= ino
ht= tps://www.facebook.com/groups/557495624389384 (politics in NYS about bi= tcoin.)
http://frenchmorning.com/en/2014/08/= 18/french-robin-hood-bitcoin-new-york

On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 5:19 PM, H= ector Chu via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoun= dation.org> wrote:
Haha. Re= minds me of when I asked Gavin earlier this year about whether
he cared about politics and he replied that he only cared about and
was responsible for the technicals. Little did he know he would
unwittingly become the technical enabler for Mike's political
shenanigans.

On 19 August 2015 at 21:19, Eric Lombrozo via bitcoin-dev
<bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wro= te:
> Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being go= verned
> by those who are dumber.
> - Plato
>
> On Aug 19, 2015, at 1:11 PM, Eric Lombrozo <elombrozo@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Alex,
>
> With all due respect, right now the biggest challenge facing Bitcoin i= s not
> technical but political. I would love to see this list go back to tech= nical
> discussions, but unfortunately, until this political stuff is resolved= , even
> technical discussion is purely philosophical as there=E2=80=99s little= chance of
> actually making good progress on consensus=E2=80=A6which in a space wh= ere everything
> depends on consensus pretty much makes everything else moot.
>
> On Aug 19, 2015, at 1:08 PM, Alex Morcos via bitcoin-dev
> <bitcoin-d= ev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
> This is a message that I wrote and had hoped that all the core devs wo= uld
> sign on to, but I failed to finish organizing it.=C2=A0 So I'll ju= st say it from
> myself.
>
> There has been a valuable discussion over the last several months rega= rding
> a hard fork with respect to block size.=C2=A0 However the sheer volume= of email
> and proportion of discussion that is more philosophical than technical= has
> rendered this list almost unusable for its primary purpose of technica= l
> discussion related to Bitcoin development.=C2=A0 Many of us share the = blame for
> letting the discourse run off topic to such a degree, and we hope that= an
> appeal for individual self restraint will allow this list to return to= a
> higher signal-to-noise ratio.
> -Please consider the degree to which any email you send is related to<= br> > technical development before sending it.
> -Please consider how many emails you are sending to this list regardin= g the
> same topic.
> This list is not appropriate for an endless back and forth debate on t= he
> philosophical underpinnings of Bitcoin.=C2=A0 Although such a debate m= ay be
> worthwhile it should be taken to another forum for discussion.=C2=A0 E= very email
> you send is received by hundreds of developers who value their time as= much
> as you value yours.=C2=A0 If your intended audience isn't really t= he majority of
> them, perhaps private communication would be more appropriate.
>
> Thanks,
> Alex
>
> _______________________________________________
> bitcoin-dev mailing list
> bitcoin-dev@l= ists.linuxfoundation.org
> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org= /mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
>
>
>
>
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