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Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2016 09:42:49 -0700
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To: Gavin Andresen <gavinandresen@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Start time for BIP141 (segwit)
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If somebody is not "running their own validation code"  then they aren't act=
ually using Bitcoin, so their ease in transition is irrelevant. For all they=
 know they are accepting random numbers.

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> On Oct 16, 2016, at 9:35 AM, Gavin Andresen via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@l=
ists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>=20
>> On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Tom Zander via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev=
@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>> The fallow period sounds waaaay to short. I suggest 2 months at minimum
>> since anyone that wants to be safe needs to upgrade.
>=20
> I asked a lot of businesses and individuals how long it would take them to=
 upgrade to a new release over the last year or two.
>=20
> Nobody said it would take them more than two weeks.
>=20
> If somebody is running their own validation code... then we should assume t=
hey're sophisticated enough to figure out how to mitigate any risks associat=
ed with segwit activation on their own.
>=20
> --=20
> --
> Gavin Andresen
>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div></div><div>If somebody is not "running=
 their own validation code" &nbsp;then they aren't actually using Bitcoin, s=
o their ease in transition is irrelevant. For all they know they are accepti=
ng random numbers.</div><div><br></div><div>e</div><div><br>On Oct 16, 2016,=
 at 9:35 AM, Gavin Andresen via bitcoin-dev &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-de=
v@lists.linuxfoundation.org">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>&gt; w=
rote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 10:58 A=
M, Tom Zander via bitcoin-dev <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoi=
n-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfo=
undation.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div id=3D=
":14l" class=3D"a3s aXjCH m157ce0b7f332af16">The fallow period sounds waaaay=
 to short. I suggest 2 months at minimum<br>
since anyone that wants to be safe needs to upgrade.</div></blockquote></div=
><br>I asked a lot of businesses and individuals how long it would take them=
 to upgrade to a new release over the last year or two.</div><div class=3D"g=
mail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Nobody said it would take t=
hem more than two weeks.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_extra">If somebody is running their own validation code... then w=
e should assume they're sophisticated enough to figure out how to mitigate a=
ny risks associated with segwit activation on their own.<br><div><br></div>-=
- <br><div class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>--<br>Gavin Andresen</div><div><br></div>=
</div></div></div>
</div></div>
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v@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a></span><br><span><a href=3D"https://lists.lin=
uxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev">https://lists.linuxfoundation=
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