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Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 19:33:52 -0400
From: Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org>
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Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Build your own nHashType
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On Thu, Apr 09, 2015 at 10:56:20PM -0400, Stephen Morse wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org> wrote:
>=20
> > For the OP: Have you looked at how CODESEPARATOR allows the signature to
> > sign code to run as part of verifying the signature? E.g. my signature
> > can say "valid if you run these additional opcodes and they return true"
> > where those additional opcodes take the transaction, hash it in the
> > defined way, and verify that the ECC signature correctly signs that
> > hash and the hash of the additional opcodes. For instance in this case
> > making a signature that's only valid if the tx fee is less than the
> > defined amount would be a matter of GET_FEE <max fee + 1> LESSTHAN VERI=
FY
> >
>=20
> I've never been able to really see a good use case for OP_CODESEPARATOR,
> and I'm not sure I completely have my head wrapped around what you're
> proposing. From this
> <http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/34013/what-is-op-codeseparato=
r-used-for>
>  and this
> <https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3D52949.msg631255#msg631255>,
> though, it seems like OP_CODESEPARATOR cannot really be made useful unless
> you already have a way to sign without hashing the TXIDs referenced by yo=
ur
> input, in which case you need to modify the nHashType.

I wrote up how to do this on #bitcoin-wizards, Dec 9th 2014:

17:13 < petertodd> hearn: even now you can use OP_CODESEPARATOR to
implement efficient payword schemes
17:14 < petertodd> hearn: early on you could have used it to do some
really useful after-the-fact signing delegation by wrapping a IF ENDIF
around the CODESEPARATOR introduced into the middle of the
scriptSig/scriptPubKey pair - shame we got rid of that without thinking
the design through
17:15 < petertodd> hearn: e.g. "create a signature that delegates
signing authority to another pubkey"
17:15 < petertodd> probably all 100% accidental... but a nice accident
17:16 < hearn> it's probably for the best. i can imagine such things
being a surprise for implementations not expecting them. a script 2.0
effort that incorporates lots of neat features but still lets script 1.0
work would be nice to have, one day
17:17 < petertodd> satoshi belived in 1 implementation, and by putting
CODESEPARATOR into the scriptSig/scriptPubKey concatenation you had to
opt-in to making that feature possible to use in any particular
scriptPubKey
17:17 < petertodd> w/o the mis-matched ENDIF you can't pull off that
trick because you can't turn CODESEPARATOR off
17:19 < petertodd> to be explicit: scriptPubKey: ENDIF <pubkey>
CHECKSIG, then the normal case is scriptSig: <signature> 1 IF
17:19 < petertodd> they concatenate to  <signature> 1 IF ENDIF <pubkey>
CHECKSIG, CODESEPARATOR is evaluated, and the signature is evaluated on
the script ENDIF <pubkey> CHECKSIG
17:20 < petertodd> to delegate signing authority after the fact sign a
signature on the script <pubkey2> 0 IF ENDIF <pubkey> CHECKSIG
17:21 < petertodd> (remember that CODESEPARATORS are removed by
SignatureHash())
17:22 < petertodd> oops, I mean: <pubkey2> CHECKSIGVERIFY 0 IF ENDIF
<pubkey> CHECKSIG
17:22 < petertodd> anyway, to finally spend it, create another signature
with pubkey2 signing the script <pubkey2> CHECKSIGVERIFY 0 IF ENDIF
<pubkey> CHECKSIG again, and finally spend it with the scriptSig:
<pubkey-sig> <pubkey2-sig> CODESEPARATOR <pubkey2> 0 IF
17:24 < petertodd> after concatenation the script: <pubkey-sig>
<pubkey2-sig> CODESEPARATOR <pubkey2> 0 IF CODESEPARATOR ENDIF <pubkey>
CHECKSIG is evaluated, the inner signature satisfies, and the outer
signature is satisfied only if the scriptPubKey was essentially changed
after the fact to also require the inner, second, pubkey2 to be
satisfied
17:26 < petertodd> a nice use-case would, forinstance, have been to have
a signing robot be able to create signatures offline for a given txout
with SIGHASH_SINGLE such that you had a spending limit enforced, and
exactly who was then allowed to spend the funds - say a department of a
company - could be picked after the fact without re-spending the txout
17:33 < petertodd> gmaxwell: re: script validation state, a good model
would be to have the tx input to EvalScript() essentially be a
CMerkleTx, and the prevout scriptPubKey be the prevout CTxOut (*maybe*
the prevout tx itself... bit dubious there...)

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