Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 730C3411 for ; Thu, 12 May 2016 04:01:31 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-qk0-f177.google.com (mail-qk0-f177.google.com [209.85.220.177]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 62C1D1A0 for ; Thu, 12 May 2016 04:01:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qk0-f177.google.com with SMTP id x7so36957112qkd.3 for ; Wed, 11 May 2016 21:01:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=thinlink-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=CjAqqLM8McuTFCOwkZdHGxWhHjXlKPjx8fRuaJZcykU=; b=WpsvaBgXBi2s47DYQxcDM7ylKjq3M4pcs/yin/8VG05jhJpTjg5uX3DTZdBOPYiHIz KDtCJ4Qo4aw4OO9M5TmV95/SR4deWRnHsMCX6deTQ2tUdVS8TMhsSZfC5ZSkmIU6+000 TwMhSsVa1Edc0/IVJXv8phfbiVfAD7kOWMQL4Ue6/CG5K8MRO50euMgzb8nBCCbaignh Z6L/y8vVBaB8s7QHDlp96kSEJNdSBa6vI4xc3220SbsjD3hhWyT3jiDrdZZEBsrSDyQv MmeuC8KeXmVG0DLBZpt+2JW8KKbvg/IskxG5xRKZgMcllj0k7baqLPDRL+GOjGgNiOA7 EXlA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=CjAqqLM8McuTFCOwkZdHGxWhHjXlKPjx8fRuaJZcykU=; b=ZxXsCvROaqGPkKFO5Fou1sQdKjLEZpCSrBFMmOuaDCCI6MLGZuMeB1Mp73R/sIwVem yVGHKChjk9riWY0+zAPUqn+IOQyt+e3ZkSIr7OqpoLqQQSqmdv0Ge1zVlpFosA89+98n b9E/Jt339NzanTDB8Awb1b1+lksTGtPYZiSkupfAWHRZzdWy4h9FWEVMHqlbLFkJA5z7 1LgtEtMj5j5+M6zB7DLdsXvKXWwIb4ullyKjViE7rw+Xjn42UomUqhOEVET7Py9u8rv9 FFBTPYcpA8R5IyG2RGgztK2N9i0jsFkOTaNym37nna1jSgns/+8YGtsIac9++aL1GYBb eyTw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FXRDLCMqN6bE46xDjU9Hg8LqzPbQT2bIAB2gWXBN7J3r877GjOUidsEXrSC7D7WfldOoZs08RC+/Hbjp0TG MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.55.72.130 with SMTP id v124mr7635676qka.13.1463025689531; Wed, 11 May 2016 21:01:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.55.32.14 with HTTP; Wed, 11 May 2016 21:01:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.55.32.14 with HTTP; Wed, 11 May 2016 21:01:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <0572DC3D-1E25-44CA-AE08-154BF663148C@petertodd.org> References: <20160510185728.GA1149@fedora-21-dvm> <7a9bf5ac-5d23-c7cd-e297-f7dd6503919b@thinlink.com> <0572DC3D-1E25-44CA-AE08-154BF663148C@petertodd.org> Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 21:01:29 -0700 Message-ID: From: Tom Harding To: Peter Todd Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114a89a285b0da05329d36c7 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Making AsicBoost irrelevant X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 04:01:31 -0000 --001a114a89a285b0da05329d36c7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On May 11, 2016 7:33 PM, "Peter Todd" wrote: > The optimisation has been independently discovered two or three times (Spondoolies and maybe Bitmain). The idea that a precedent can be set, whereby those who seek or are awarded mining optimization patents risk retaliatory consensus changes, is very unrealistic, and such a precedent would actually encode a dependency on the insane patent systems of the world into the protocol development process. --001a114a89a285b0da05329d36c7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On May 11, 2016 7:33 PM, "Peter Todd" <pete@petertodd.org> wrote:

> The optimisation has been independently discovered two = or three times (Spondoolies and maybe Bitmain).

The idea that a precedent can be set, whereby those who seek= or are awarded mining optimization patents risk retaliatory consensus chan= ges, is very unrealistic, and such a precedent would actually encode a depe= ndency on the insane patent systems of the world into the protocol developm= ent process.

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