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X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <bitcoin-development.lists.sourceforge.net> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=bitcoin-development> List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 12:45:42 -0000 --f46d04428f0019972c050db5bfb0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I agree that the use protocol buffer and x509 by BIP70 is a poor choice. The choice should have been done to maximize portability, not to maximize efficiency and flexibility. What I ended up doing for having a similar codebase on all plateform is to parse a BIP70 messages with the help of a web service that convert it to JSON. I don't like this solution since it had a trust dependency, and the certificate verification become handled by the web service, not the device. But even if I solved google buffer problem, I would stumble upon having headache to validate the x509 certificate chain on every plateforms. A simple BIP70 using JSON + HTTPS would have make things more easy. I agree that it requires that the merchant own the domain name of the BIP70 endpoint, but I don't consider such a big of a deal, since this is how e-commerce works. --f46d04428f0019972c050db5bfb0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>I agree that the use protocol buffer and x509 by= BIP70 is a poor choice.<br><br></div>The choice should have been done to m= aximize portability, not to maximize efficiency and flexibility.<br><br></d= iv><div>What I ended up doing for having a similar codebase on all platefor= m is to parse a BIP70 messages with the help of a web service that convert = it to JSON.<br></div><div>I don't like this solution since it had a tru= st dependency, and the certificate verification become handled by the web s= ervice, not the device. But even if I solved google buffer problem, I would= stumble upon having headache to validate the x509 certificate chain on eve= ry plateforms.<br></div><div><br></div><div>A simple BIP70 using JSON + HTT= PS would have make things more easy.<br></div><div>I agree that it requires= that the merchant own the domain name of the BIP70 endpoint, but I don'= ;t consider such a big of a deal, since this is how e-commerce works.<br></= div></div> --f46d04428f0019972c050db5bfb0--