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From: Mark Friedenbach <mark@monetize.io>
To: Kevin <kevinsisco61784@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Warning message when running wallet in
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XP is no longer receiving security patches from Microsoft, and hasn't been
for some time. There are known remote exploits that aren't going to be
fixed, ever.
On Apr 16, 2014 8:15 AM, "Kevin" <kevinsisco61784@gmail.com> wrote:

>  On 4/16/2014 4:14 AM, Wladimir wrote:
>
>  Hello,
>
> Today I noticed that even my bank is warning people to not do internet
> banking with Windows XP.
>
> If it is no longer secure enough for online banking it's CERTAINLY not
> secure enough to run a wallet (for a node only it would be ok-ish as they
> have no keys to protect).
>  Any opinions on what to do here? Just warn and allow the user to
> continue? Redirect them to a 'Windows XP is dangerous' message on
> bitcoin.org? (Microsoft uses
> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/end-support-help)
>
>  The drawback of dropping XP support completely would be that a lot of
> computers (especially in China and Russia etc) are still running XP, so
> this could cause the network to lose nodes.
>
> If you're maintainer of other wallet software: how are you handling this?
>  Are you going to drop XP support completely? If so, starting from when?
>
> Regards,
>  Wladimir
>
>
>
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>  I think we should get to the bottom of this.  Should we assume that xp is
> not secure enough?  What is this warning?  Who is issuing this warning?
>
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<p dir=3D"ltr">XP is no longer receiving security patches from Microsoft, a=
nd hasn&#39;t been for some time. There are known remote exploits that aren=
&#39;t going to be fixed, ever.</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Apr 16, 2014 8:15 AM, &quot;Kevin&quot; &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:kevinsisco61784@gmail.com">kevinsisco61784@gmail.com</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

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    <div>On 4/16/2014 4:14 AM, Wladimir wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      <div dir=3D"ltr">
        <div>Hello,<br>
          <div>
            <div>
              <p>Today I noticed that even my bank is warning people to
                not do internet banking with Windows XP.</p>
              <p>If it is no longer secure enough for online banking
                it&#39;s CERTAINLY not secure enough to run a wallet (for a
                node only it would be ok-ish as they have no keys to
                protect).</p>
            </div>
          </div>
          Any opinions on what to do here? Just warn and allow the user
          to continue? Redirect them to a &#39;Windows XP is dangerous&#39;
          message on <a href=3D"http://bitcoin.org" target=3D"_blank">bitco=
in.org</a>? (Microsoft uses <a href=3D"http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w=
indows/end-support-help" target=3D"_blank">http://windows.microsoft.com/en-=
us/windows/end-support-help</a>)<br>

          <br>
        </div>
        <div>The drawback of dropping XP support completely would be
          that a lot of computers (especially in China and Russia etc)
          are still running XP, so this could cause the network to lose
          nodes.<br>
        </div>
        <div><br>
          If you&#39;re maintainer of other wallet software: how are you
          handling this?<br>
        </div>
        <div>Are you going to drop XP support completely? If so,
          starting from when?<br>
        </div>
        <div><br>
          Regards,<br>
        </div>
        Wladimir<br>
        <br>
      </div>
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    I think we should get to the bottom of this.=C2=A0 Should we assume tha=
t
    xp is not secure enough?=C2=A0 What is this warning?=C2=A0 Who is issui=
ng this
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