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To: Tom Harding <tomh@thinlink.com>
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Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] soft-fork block size increase (extension
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Awesome graph!

It would be interesting if you could use your Excel voodoo (or whatever =
graph app you use) to add density as a heat map, making areas with more =
blocks red and regions with less blocks blue=E2=80=A6


> On Jun 1, 2015, at 8:42 PM, Tom Harding <tomh@thinlink.com> wrote:
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> On 6/1/2015 10:21 AM, Adam Back wrote:
>> if it stays as is for a year, in a wait and see, reduce spam, see
>> fee-pressure take effect as it has before, work on improving improve
>> decentralisation metrics, relay latency, and do a blocksize increment
>> to kick the can if-and-when it becomes necessary and in the mean-time
>> try to do something more long-term ambitious about scale rather than
>> volume.
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> What's your estimate of the lead time required to kick the can,
> if-and-when it becomes necessary?
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> The other time-series I've seen all plot an average block size.  =
That's
> misleading, because there's a distribution of block sizes.  If you bin
> by retarget interval and plot every single block, you get this
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> http://i.imgur.com/5Gfh9CW.png
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> The max block size has clearly been in play for 8 months already.
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class=3D""><div class=3D"">Awesome graph!</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">It would be interesting if you could =
use your Excel voodoo (or whatever graph app you use) to add density as =
a heat map, making areas with more blocks red and regions with less =
blocks blue=E2=80=A6</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><br =
class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On =
Jun 1, 2015, at 8:42 PM, Tom Harding &lt;<a =
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6/1/2015 10:21 AM, Adam Back wrote:<br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D"">if it stays as is for a year, in a wait and =
see, reduce spam, see<br class=3D"">fee-pressure take effect as it has =
before, work on improving improve<br class=3D"">decentralisation =
metrics, relay latency, and do a blocksize increment<br class=3D"">to =
kick the can if-and-when it becomes necessary and in the mean-time<br =
class=3D"">try to do something more long-term ambitious about scale =
rather than<br class=3D"">volume.<br class=3D""></blockquote><br =
class=3D"">What's your estimate of the lead time required to kick the =
can,<br class=3D"">if-and-when it becomes necessary?<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">The other time-series I've seen all plot an average block =
size. &nbsp;That's<br class=3D"">misleading, because there's a =
distribution of block sizes. &nbsp;If you bin<br class=3D"">by retarget =
interval and plot every single block, you get this<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><a href=3D"http://i.imgur.com/5Gfh9CW.png" =
class=3D"">http://i.imgur.com/5Gfh9CW.png</a><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">The max block size has clearly been in play for 8 months =
already.<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
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