Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7D3286C for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2017 02:18:27 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-io0-f172.google.com (mail-io0-f172.google.com [209.85.223.172]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F3469147 for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2017 02:18:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-io0-f172.google.com with SMTP id b140so58821262iof.1 for ; Sat, 01 Apr 2017 19:18:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bittorrent-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=bWqU+mThBNIC8+KXiO9Tr9GqEtJn8/4gXFP+77OynRo=; b=BuCblnrEPyb067rNm8OAH0un6VJeBj2e9dO0pL44VITbfoZj8XIn93b8WykWscANnt MCZzAlNC4UPlTt1k0Ub4X/Av745HfWr5IJK/jbiD+ctL4rf6aQIWuDKr0wo+yMQPJ9gC 8CNOeYDZ5wVf+Qmb2EZJUH98o2IGdh0y32fbCMnfKeDnIopgMrTcB28KRPwbc917Ll74 kBAJrcBrtieNv2c4gvPKLLkBxHzQDkQJ2IE611Oa/vJ6n7ay8iwvkZGNTws2f2Jj473W f2RUpNJWm7ZJZzrCjevY54qBn83b9qrRVDCnE2mA+wRGG+WyJR0fTGznC1nK2CYSA/CP cOtQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=bWqU+mThBNIC8+KXiO9Tr9GqEtJn8/4gXFP+77OynRo=; b=io2EhQoCtlN5hY8wgheua/L7lXgp9zTmhXo+4DrfIlFJ6dH9zCZdj39/w3ScrqwMCn LuPn0J2E/fx4CTRONFAIpQhNH1I1WElcFrF2GbB9pXFZhY/dFVlAFVqx2t3v3QWTLBYA ZXtyDdVC7pACb5lKFw3bpp4r2zmrNfLk/Wdfx3Oj8NpbLhNiMg9GsyoljoTnCmw0yRs9 B9Nr5tA1/w8LUPNp/7+OkcXZFEKgGqqdSuTMWX0p7deYTt6GfD6S3sbjJmjOJfZgokLX rSq+aM8qP/oLz2S7fhHsfL3SSB2R8Xlt3m8+LNZgZ1APschPy710CFl3d4RlKyWyF26S IBlg== X-Gm-Message-State: AFeK/H0tXF5gqa7Drmk7/eSvEf9NG42VIUhksEFHpE8383mNJBMHtTbQ8sBNGBj56TJQ6niH3eBxHsItP+4TOy5+ X-Received: by 10.107.50.206 with SMTP id y197mr10961278ioy.214.1491099506398; Sat, 01 Apr 2017 19:18:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.36.184.70 with HTTP; Sat, 1 Apr 2017 19:18:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8f4fSx74VGLlhmwWm7Gwzl5qNMd6okkHcBlCT55CRkYxa_lrEHL-C0hARMXcTaf4CNVIh8no1CHJF-_bmZJRJDsx1H10PCrI45X0D7QdukE=@protonmail.com> References: <8f4fSx74VGLlhmwWm7Gwzl5qNMd6okkHcBlCT55CRkYxa_lrEHL-C0hARMXcTaf4CNVIh8no1CHJF-_bmZJRJDsx1H10PCrI45X0D7QdukE=@protonmail.com> From: Bram Cohen Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 19:18:25 -0700 Message-ID: To: praxeology_guy Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11447954677045054c25a8d5 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Guessing the spentness status of the pruned relatives X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2017 02:18:27 -0000 --001a11447954677045054c25a8d5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 6:58 PM, praxeology_guy < praxeology_guy@protonmail.com> wrote: > Bram Cohen, > > In R&D: First its appropriate to explore all interesting ideas, and help > each other improve their ideas. Last, when there is a deadline that needs > to be met, we compare various options and decide on which to go with. > > I'm on the First step still. > In that case you should read my txo bitfield proposal, instead of taking my postings yesterday as a prompt to respond to something completely unrelated. > If you really want to push me to saying it, I'm not a fan of the Patricia > Tree for bitcoin txos. I think its too much work for everyone to do when > other options are available. But I'm not trying to say that your design is > bad or wont work... I'm just personally not interested in it at this time. > My bitfield proposal is different from the patricia trie stuff. Also your objection about patricia tries being 'too much work' is nonsensical because they're quite a bit simpler than MMRs. --001a11447954677045054c25a8d5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On S= at, Apr 1, 2017 at 6:58 PM, praxeology_guy <praxeology_guy@pro= tonmail.com> wrote:
Br= am Cohen,

In R&D: First its appropriate to= explore all interesting ideas, and help each other improve their ideas.=C2= =A0 Last, when there is a deadline that needs to be met, we compare various= options and decide on which to go with.

I'= ;m on the First step still.

In th= at case you should read my txo bitfield proposal, instead of taking my post= ings yesterday as a prompt to respond to something completely unrelated.
=C2=A0
If you really want = to push me to saying it, I'm not a fan of the Patricia Tree for bitcoin= txos.=C2=A0 I think its too much work for everyone to do when other option= s are available.=C2=A0 But I'm not trying to say that your design is ba= d or wont work... I'm just personally not interested in it at this time= .

My bitfield proposal is differe= nt from the patricia trie stuff. Also your objection about patricia tries b= eing 'too much work' is nonsensical because they're quite a bit= simpler than MMRs.

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