Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.osuosl.org (smtp1.osuosl.org [IPv6:2605:bc80:3010::138]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D6F7C002D for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2022 15:22:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 059A78272C for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2022 15:22:37 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.802 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.802 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, BITCOIN_OBFU_SUBJ=1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: smtp1.osuosl.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=petertodd.org header.b="Zr5rurCI"; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=messagingengine.com header.b="uCu3QfMc" Received: from smtp1.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp1.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wdOfzdLL_M_Z for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2022 15:22:36 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.8.0 Received: from wout2-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout2-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.25]) by smtp1.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 58A8D8264A for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2022 15:22:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC4CA3200AC9; Sun, 24 Apr 2022 11:22:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 24 Apr 2022 11:22:34 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=petertodd.org; h=cc:cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:date:from :from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to; s=fm2; t=1650813753; x= 1650900153; bh=NmPcInO1HOQMFVSowVAwFr59eosHkVRowtbhZ1cdXZA=; b=Z r5rurCIYMggpy3+Shp0TwGOJV4qyXVuXBCHkxqjaImqxJ6wq+HY5bKb2xbhyhuq+ /k7sF6/5WVLp7KsUXnNFyqtZsCeg6WGXQHxurU6jhZl4dmMmNaA46CuCC2yYtUHW jprnUPHIbvtGD8+aIAUcufR59WjF8RoiibAGCS6cKzaumQ3eaRDESRdrvq+2TYR3 zof52c9R9EHjRvkqyoCSlwO3jrHU81c8FWth1b2cbwAeegRHLSpASuEbSJexlWVd SxuuGf/9k5eL6MWMduIbFtWH5U0XCak41851W0PTNhYCZ3wVHcxP5aDHQSQXN3Jt UBtOToHC+ehPX/bTUlyXA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:date:date:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:sender:subject :subject:to:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; t=1650813753; x=1650900153; bh=NmPcInO1HOQMF VSowVAwFr59eosHkVRowtbhZ1cdXZA=; b=uCu3QfMc4YvH79jsIi1na9Wpul+df LU+mLLvtzC0HHXmNkfPo6IK5I2+JuWdB4VP9sBoLC42Nw4viDdo1scMildjJNgKW z7nPqjLeib0JJFa5boIGr1ARntf3Lz+IS3LeE4dk7b06kJIzrEw/UqmbQp9jUAsm 8t5+hH2vOkXh6gAjicUldpDFQ8ArFozIZd6PDsPVQcZJTamGvaZnEaQbu6LJ5zhs 1i16uSKVpJZTskEXbrd0tsRFIx5rme1FxRgrMbgucBvoYDNH7FU5HTdQ2eYVAY5A ZQvycKmI5eF+eZdaRjB+Ra1nfyUPPKa/bAYDfF3MAYQcE1O/ytCYUDJMQ== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvfedrtdelgdeklecutefuodetggdotefrodftvf curfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecu uegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenuc fjughrpeffhffvvefufggjfhfkgggtgfesthhqmhdttderjeenucfhrhhomheprfgvthgv rhcuvfhougguuceophgvthgvsehpvghtvghrthhouggurdhorhhgqeenucggtffrrghtth gvrhhnpeejgfejveduudejvddtleefhfeugffhleetjeffgeetheelvdefvedttdffvddt vdenucffohhmrghinhepnhhithhtvghrrdhnvghtnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptd enucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepphgvthgvsehpvghtvghrthhouggurdhorhhg X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Sun, 24 Apr 2022 11:22:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2022 17:22:29 +0200 From: Peter Todd To: alicexbt , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion , alicexbt via bitcoin-dev , Luke Dashjr , "dave@dtrt.org" User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: References: <64a34b4d46461da322be51b53ec2eb01@dtrt.org> <202204210205.47678.luke@dashjr.org> Message-ID: <4516A563-CF6E-4AF1-8449-318EDCE177B2@petertodd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Automatically reverting ("transitory") soft forks, e.g. for CTV X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2022 15:22:37 -0000 On April 21, 2022 5:10:02 AM GMT+02:00, alicexbt via bitcoin-dev wrote: >@DavidHarding > >Interesting proposal to revert consensus changes=2E Is it possible to do = this for soft forks that are already activated? > >Example: Some users are not okay with witness discount in segwit transact= ions > >https://nitter=2Enet/giacomozucco/status/1513614380121927682 That specific case isn't a good example as reverting the discount would ac= tually be a soft fork, as it is a tightening of existing rules=2E In fact, = it'd be a block size decrease=2E