Received: from sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.191] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-3.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Vj4bd-0002eh-EO for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 10:01:57 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of petertodd.org designates 62.13.149.58 as permitted sender) client-ip=62.13.149.58; envelope-from=pete@petertodd.org; helo=outmail149058.authsmtp.co.uk; Received: from outmail149058.authsmtp.co.uk ([62.13.149.58]) by sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) id 1Vj4ba-0000hY-PV for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 10:01:57 +0000 Received: from mail-c235.authsmtp.com (mail-c235.authsmtp.com [62.13.128.235]) by punt14.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id rAKA1FkV079193; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 10:01:15 GMT Received: from savin (76-10-178-109.dsl.teksavvy.com [76.10.178.109]) (authenticated bits=128) by mail.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/) with ESMTP id rAKA19Rh032653 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 20 Nov 2013 10:01:11 GMT Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 05:01:08 -0500 From: Peter Todd To: Michael Gronager Message-ID: <20131120100108.GA4589@savin> References: <528367F5.9080303@ceptacle.com> <20131115103246.GB17034@savin> <528609E2.2050107@ceptacle.com> <20131115191956.GB29469@petertodd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20131115191956.GB29469@petertodd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Server-Quench: af97dbd0-51ca-11e3-b802-002590a15da7 X-AuthReport-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCd2Yg0TA1ZNQRgX IjsJECJaVQIpKltL GxAVKBZePFsRUQkR aAdMdAIUFloCAgsB AmUbWlReUFx7WGE7 bAxPbAVDY01GQQRq WVdMSlVNFUsqcGdw Bxd8ChlxdQNDezB3 ZUZqECENVUMuJxJ9 X0tVRjwbZGY1a31N WEBaagNUcgZDfk5E bwQuUz1vNG8XDQg5 AwQ0PjZ0MThBJSBS WgQAK04nCWsVEzh0 XBEHBTEiBwUARiMy KgEjYlAREQ4aO0E5 LF8oRVMfNX1aBApE GlxJCX0RKRFXDyAs EAVGTAwQFydedj1V HhBvKwFFGDVdVx1S AExOSAoOGS4t X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633532353630.1023:706 X-AuthFastPath: 0 (Was 255) X-AuthSMTP-Origin: 76.10.178.109/587 X-AuthVirus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: petertodd.org] X-Headers-End: 1Vj4ba-0000hY-PV Cc: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Even simpler minimum fee calculation formula: f > bounty*fork_rate/average_blocksize X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 10:01:57 -0000 --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 02:19:56PM -0500, Peter Todd wrote: > On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 12:47:46PM +0100, Michael Gronager wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > >=20 > > On 15/11/13, 11:32 , Peter Todd wrote: > >=20 > > > alpha =3D (1/113)*600s/134kBytes =3D 39.62uS/byte =3D 24kB/second > > >=20 > > > Which is atrocious...=20 > >=20 > > alpha =3D P_fork*t_block/S =3D 1/113*454000/134 =3D 29ms/kb >=20 > Huh? Where did 454000 come from? Oh right, you're using the actual block interval, not the steady state one. --=20 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org 00000000000000056032432f186a8276d3feecb805d064c1def85905670a453b --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQGrBAEBCACVBQJSjIhkXhSAAAAAABUAQGJsb2NraGFzaEBiaXRjb2luLm9yZzAw MDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDU2MDMyNDMyZjE4NmE4Mjc2ZDNmZWVjYjgwNWQwNjRjMWRl Zjg1OTA1NjcwYTQ1M2IvFIAAAAAAFQARcGthLWFkZHJlc3NAZ251cGcub3JncGV0 ZUBwZXRlcnRvZC5vcmcACgkQJIFAPaXwkfss5ggAjbwOn9s1wn/sBBMK4tnQ9KYj eDRCntpp+U5g0/0jKtG1dgqe2bG2jFwWnEfTtSytTGtS9qa9/zS4AGAUzKUYAfhd 6yo67d+/7SLpPsFR8PZMf0m1ZMcnKmkcqY4Zft5cO8ZUj/yV545XrzkDdpHyh0pU OYFOLIr0hjbRatCE0Y3JjlS/Vssinl9Gfih5l7ge7o67NyzRS5Ths1XcOA0iIFDm YqbEHeoUM40zZX7VIDzePclGajBLKitRvavxmwWPwE9ZnnA/y4WVcm1OGaTD4wxj uUWwh/hhmZ3KzU5Aay76Rn5uTTjv8d/ABasMP9qiMaCiTCXyS1zEhNul4IIgDg== =pDu9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N--