Received: from sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.192] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-3.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1YEhDF-0006Mn-1f for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Fri, 23 Jan 2015 16:36:01 +0000 X-ACL-Warn: Received: from mail-ie0-f177.google.com ([209.85.223.177]) by sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1YEhDD-0005FT-MB for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Fri, 23 Jan 2015 16:36:00 +0000 Received: by mail-ie0-f177.google.com with SMTP id vy18so8063150iec.8 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2015 08:35:54 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=0I3Im//EhPvM0sFA3V76zjnMIApS6FT4mGUKogP1cSw=; b=h1E4+Z5SoeN1v/UezAPLdYBIJMLKVG2xlQM/Td7J4uF4YkF8uxe4iuP7VS4keQBcIZ JB48F23Gb19pS7/IXa2mFtFK7J9jn6r3lkiePmdkuRAOwxbTU+sfnHsnUkYi7oNW7mQn T3Qp8ypxRx/h+FHNlVBUuFnVKJkru15ixuajkfuqY03zbHu8WOfd5nRvp/Sg+FEt+c49 xg6rJgIFvizVpYrvDYO/fDcml4+4iW0ETST0ZDaHgF4PGIYCzNKf76nu9mhZm9TsCg2W aByXOabVaBKE1/RxPHTT+2cIypPDS/tnGNOROVCZT/E+3uTNmxuhqi1vIFdVSKKWzb1J h2uw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmPKE5OPS069kSf61/5UU4q7XuICjJJ+9zvz6tsYQW2c0pyJmCp1oFUFUC8VMxCM10k0m66 X-Received: by 10.50.43.169 with SMTP id x9mr2821827igl.28.1422030953892; Fri, 23 Jan 2015 08:35:53 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: marek@palatinus.cz Received: by 10.64.31.138 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Jan 2015 08:35:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <54C2766F.6030200@gmail.com> References: <54C267A1.8090208@gmail.com> <54C2766F.6030200@gmail.com> From: slush Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 17:35:23 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: XD91ZI0PF_r5OaFmgp3aRFhq13Y Message-ID: To: Alan Reiner Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e01184b9ade07c5050d5461c4 X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (slush[at]centrum.cz) 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.5 AWL AWL: Adjusted score from AWL reputation of From: address X-Headers-End: 1YEhDD-0005FT-MB Cc: Bitcoin Development Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] SIGHASH_WITHINPUTVALUE X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 16:36:01 -0000 --089e01184b9ade07c5050d5461c4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Oh, now I got the 'soft-fork' alternative. If that means that *senders* to Trezor need to be nice guys and use some special outputs, then it's, obviously, no-go solution. I understand political aspect around hard-fork. Anyway, are there any other pending projects waiting for hard-fork? Maybe we should join our effort in some way. M. On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 5:27 PM, Alan Reiner wrote: > > I am happy to entertain other ideas that achieve our goals here, but I'm > fairly confident that the new SIGHASH type is the only way that would > allow devices like Trezor to truly simplify their design (and still work > securely on 100% of funds contained by the wallet). > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > New Year. New Location. New Benefits. New Data Center in Ashburn, VA. > GigeNET is offering a free month of service with a new server in Ashburn. > Choose from 2 high performing configs, both with 100TB of bandwidth. > Higher redundancy.Lower latency.Increased capacity.Completely compliant. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/gigenet > _______________________________________________ > Bitcoin-development mailing list > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development > --089e01184b9ade07c5050d5461c4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Oh, now I got the 'soft-fork' alternative. If that= means that *senders* to Trezor need to be nice guys and use some special o= utputs, then it's, obviously, no-go solution.

I unde= rstand political aspect around hard-fork. Anyway, are there any other pendi= ng projects waiting for hard-fork? Maybe we should join our effort in some = way.

M.

On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 5:27 PM, Alan Reiner <etotheipi= @gmail.com> wrote:

I am happy to entertain other ideas that achieve our goals here, but I'= m
fairly confident that the new SIGHASH type is the only way that would
allow devices like Trezor to truly simplify their design (and still work securely on 100% of funds contained by the wallet).


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