Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 06:02:55 +0200 (CEST)
From: Prayank <prayank@tutanota.de>
To: Michael Folkson <michaelfolkson@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev]
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Good morning Michael,

Thanks for sharing the summary about BIP process meeting.=20

> However, zero filters creates a Ethereum style bewildering number of BIPs=
 of varying quality that all need to be stored and maintained. The option o=
f being able to store a BIP in any repo doesn=E2=80=99t appear to offer mat=
erial upside (michaelfolkson). It still needs to get a BIP number from the =
BIP editors and if the alternative repo is deleted or the BIP champion beco=
mes unresponsive there is the problem of changing the location of where the=
 BIP is stored. It is much easier to monitor a single repo rather than an i=
nfinite number of repos that contain BIPs.

1.I want to avoid mentioning projects that are not decentralized however th=
e thing you mentioned is a feature not a bug. Neither anyone needs "quality=
" certificates from anyone nor approval. People are free to propose anythin=
g as improvement for Bitcoin. What gets implemented is a different thing. A=
lso BIP number doesn't make something legit, BIPs can have any names. Examp=
le: If I ever create draft a proposal to improve Bitcoin, it will be in my =
own repository and with a unique name.

2.I am surprised that few influential developers that wanted to improve BIP=
 process earlier by making it more decentralized were not present in either=
 meeting. Also no follow up here on mailing list. So decentralization was o=
nly required when you had some issues with Luke Dashjr? Few things are so o=
bvious that even a newbie who starts researching about Bitcoin from today c=
an observe such things.

I tried my best to ask more people to participate in the meeting by tweetin=
g, requested Christopher to attend the meeting and share his thoughts. Than=
ks everyone who was part of this meeting.


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Prayank

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<div>Good morning Michael,<br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D=
"auto">Thanks for sharing the summary about BIP process meeting. <br></div>=
<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">&gt; However, zero filters cr=
eates a Ethereum style bewildering number of BIPs of varying quality that a=
ll need to be stored and maintained. The option of being able to store a BI=
P in any repo doesn=E2=80=99t appear to offer material upside (michaelfolks=
on). It still needs to get a BIP number from the BIP editors and if the alt=
ernative repo is deleted or the BIP champion becomes unresponsive there is =
the problem of changing the location of where the BIP is stored. It is much=
 easier to monitor a single repo rather than an infinite number of repos th=
at contain BIPs.<br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">1.I=
 want to avoid mentioning projects that are not decentralized however the t=
hing you mentioned is a feature not a bug. Neither anyone needs "quality" c=
ertificates from anyone nor approval. People are free to propose anything a=
s improvement for Bitcoin. What gets implemented is a different thing. Also=
 BIP number doesn't make something legit, BIPs can have any names. Example:=
 If I ever create draft a proposal to improve Bitcoin, it will be in my own=
 repository and with a unique name.<br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"auto">2.I am surprised that few influential developers that wante=
d to improve BIP process earlier by making it more decentralized were not p=
resent in either meeting. Also no follow up here on mailing list. So decent=
ralization was only required when you had some issues with Luke Dashjr? Few=
 things are so obvious that even a newbie who starts researching about Bitc=
oin from today can observe such things.<br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></di=
v><div dir=3D"auto">I tried my best to ask more people to participate in th=
e meeting by tweeting, requested Christopher to attend the meeting and shar=
e his thoughts. Thanks everyone who was part of this meeting.<br></div><div=
 dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div><br></div><div>-- <br></div><div>Prayank<br></=
div><div><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">A3B1 E430 2298 178F<br></div>  </body>
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