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Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 09:09:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Amir Taaki <zgenjix@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Random order for clients page
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Reply-To: Amir Taaki <zgenjix@yahoo.com>

JS randomisation is bad. People shouldn't need JS to view a webpage.=0A=0AO=
nly you have a problem with this page. I don't see why Bitcoin-Qt needs to =
be first either when it dominates the front page. It is perfectly fine as i=
t is.=0A=0AYou are not a developer of any alternative clients, and this is =
a webpage for Bitcoin clients. I have made a change to remove a source of d=
isputes, and make the process more fair and equal. Your suggestion to remov=
e the clients page is your bias towards thinking that there should be only =
one Bitcoin client that everyone uses (the one which you contribute towards=
).=0A=0AIf you want to suggest removing the clients page, then fine, lets a=
lso remove all reference to Bitcoin-Qt from the front-page and turn it into=
 a http://bittorrent.org/ style website.=0A=0AFact is that the other client=
s are rapidly becoming stable and mature, and the ecosystem is diversifying=
. The argument that the other clients were not up to scratch held maybe a f=
ew months ago, but not now.=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message -----=0AFrom:=
 Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail.com>=0ATo: Amir Taaki <zgenjix@yahoo.com>=
=0ACc: "bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net" <bitcoin-development@lis=
ts.sourceforge.net>=0ASent: Monday, July 9, 2012 5:04 PM=0ASubject: Re: [Bi=
tcoin-development] Random order for clients page=0A=0AOn Mon, Jul 9, 2012 a=
t 11:54 AM, Amir Taaki <zgenjix@yahoo.com> wrote:=0A> Took me a while, but =
finally got it working.=0A> Entries on the clients page are randomly ordere=
d when the page is generated.=0A> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin.org/co=
mmit/6850fc8c83494d6ec415ea9d36fb98366373cc03=0A> We should regenerate the =
page every 2 days. This gives fair exposure to all the clients listed.=0A=
=0AIf you had authored this as a pull request rather than making the=0Achan=
ge unilaterally I would have recommended leaving it so the=0Areference clie=
nt was always first. I also would have suggested that it=0Ause JS randomiza=
tion instead of jekyll in order to get more even=0Acoverage, though I think=
 thats a more minor point.=0A=0ASome people were concerned when this page w=
as created that it would=0Ajust be a source of useless disputes.=A0 I think=
 its becoming clear that=0Athis is the case. I think the cost of dealing wi=
th this page is=0Astarting to exceed the benefit it provides and we should =
probably=0Aconsider removing it.=0A