Received: from sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.192] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-1.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from <jgarzik@bitpay.com>) id 1Z6Z0y-0001CA-O0 for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 06:46:00 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of bitpay.com designates 209.85.218.50 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.218.50; envelope-from=jgarzik@bitpay.com; helo=mail-oi0-f50.google.com; Received: from mail-oi0-f50.google.com ([209.85.218.50]) by sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1Z6Z0x-0007Ou-SX for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 06:46:00 +0000 Received: by oigx81 with SMTP id x81so104113915oig.1 for <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>; Sat, 20 Jun 2015 23:45:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=6lo3naVhCK3B0gZzmQ1oWtTX0udAKzxhYZP/cuk43uQ=; b=FpSKFPDtbKNkvpfIvP6vM8BliRf4eFhFVF5PM1e//8BVw8fDaDVeeby02NSPfDZi18 sn8/5/2WjkNKXC/NGu5BPKzRD19UcgwcbR2+L+AP3kU56pQDXjfz/xMHNaLHtInOnt0+ lX3s5YivZ32XYztze852B6ZjT6EKo6XvhLTswr4i4LnVF2k0QhoyNtEf5zH2yRNNTqE0 XI7pvo4T+llLvM8Zdb52r5KkTEz0mtnvvtU9gf+tTSb8OZ/hHMdzRsuqM5pLU0xoGwSr qX7M6lXZ1ggOo3IAeT/7jB34FjRpxhQvKf0HeGrkP37RsAxOzqnkKBSbqAkSv0rOy/45 aXmg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnIoAnE7jY2X9TviiNvyJu5JBlrdeM2SGUWy1SNj/fG2Jq96/ho5nF8huQBVnTEv1gGRLl0 X-Received: by 10.202.107.12 with SMTP id g12mr12677147oic.120.1434869154353; Sat, 20 Jun 2015 23:45:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.202.108.149 with HTTP; Sat, 20 Jun 2015 23:45:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <70534C5D-8834-42B5-B495-FD9975E8FCF4@gmail.com> References: <20150619103959.GA32315@savin.petertodd.org> <04CE3756-B032-464C-8FBD-7ACDD1A3197D@gmail.com> <812d8353e66637ec182da31bc0a9aac1@riseup.net> <1727885.UUNByX4Jyd@crushinator> <83A7C606-B601-47D2-BE10-2A1412D97514@gmail.com> <CABm2gDrHFB_XtQXVvoFeEH5TUfWSc3JLcNuo-oSXNJaExB+Vdg@mail.gmail.com> <8a49c53a032503eeca4f51cdef725fe1@riseup.net> <B4B8DB86-C03A-4C79-BD94-3E073D5E7003@gmail.com> <6d025db96e7aec4e6e47a76883a9a1e3@riseup.net> <70534C5D-8834-42B5-B495-FD9975E8FCF4@gmail.com> From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@bitpay.com> Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 23:45:34 -0700 Message-ID: <CAJHLa0NkQqypvU=yANCScs3hKhTyM53rt3aNW=QRh-HmBT4-Hg@mail.gmail.com> To: Eric Lombrozo <elombrozo@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1140326a3eac1d05190182a3 X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature 0.1 AWL AWL: Adjusted score from AWL reputation of From: address X-Headers-End: 1Z6Z0x-0007Ou-SX Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>, Justus Ranvier <justusranvier@riseup.net> Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] F2Pool has enabled full replace-by-fee X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <bitcoin-development.lists.sourceforge.net> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=bitcoin-development> List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 06:46:00 -0000 --001a1140326a3eac1d05190182a3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 5:54 PM, Eric Lombrozo <elombrozo@gmail.com> wrote: > but we NEED to be applying some kind of pressure on the merchant end to > upgrade their stuff to be more resilient > Can you be specific? What precise technical steps would you have BitPay and Coinbase do? We upgrade our stuff to... what exactly? -- Jeff Garzik Bitcoin core developer and open source evangelist BitPay, Inc. https://bitpay.com/ --001a1140326a3eac1d05190182a3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 5:54 PM, Eric Lombrozo <span dir= =3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:elombrozo@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">elomb= rozo@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div cla= ss=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 = .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">=C2=A0but we NEED to be a= pplying some kind of pressure on the merchant end to upgrade their stuff to= be more resilient<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Can you be specific?= =C2=A0 What precise technical steps would you have BitPay and Coinbase do?= =C2=A0 We upgrade our stuff to... what exactly?</div></div><div><br></div>-= - <br><div class=3D"gmail_signature">Jeff Garzik<br>Bitcoin core developer = and open source evangelist<br>BitPay, Inc. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"h= ttps://bitpay.com/" target=3D"_blank">https://bitpay.com/</a></div> </div></div> --001a1140326a3eac1d05190182a3--