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Wed, 27 Jul 2022 07:50:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2022 13:50:23 +0200 From: Peter Todd To: vjudeu@gazeta.pl, Bitcoin Protocol Discussion , vjudeu via bitcoin-dev , "Peter Todd , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion" , aaradhya@technovanti.co.in, Aaradhya Chauhan User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: <165817500-9cd6c638a6ebf3036340d99291955e18@pmq2v.m5r2.onet> References: <165817500-9cd6c638a6ebf3036340d99291955e18@pmq2v.m5r2.onet> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Regarding setting a lower minrelaytxfee X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2022 11:50:47 -0000 On July 27, 2022 6:10:00 AM GMT+02:00, vjudeu via bitcoin-dev wrote: >> So I'd suggest removing the fixed dust limit entirely and relying purel= y on the mempool size limit to determine what is or is not dust=2E > >Just use those settings in your node: > >minrelaytxfee=3D0=2E00000000 >blockmintxfee=3D0=2E00000000 >dustrelayfee=3D0=2E00000000 > >No changes in source code are needed, nodes can change their limits witho= ut asking anyone=2E And if some node is a miner, then it can be enforced=2E= But if not, then still, free transactions are useful for communication (if= more of them will be accepted, then we will switch to negative fee transac= tions with proper sighashes, then it will be very unlikely that miners will= voluntarily add coins, so it will remain useful for communication)=2E It's pointless for individual nodes to make changes like this on their own= =2E Without like-minded peers this achieves nothing=2E What is relevant is = network wide defaults=2E The only time those settings are useful is special situations like miners = who want to push txs to their own memlools=2E For the _vast_ majority of us= ers changing defaults achieves absolutely nothing=2E