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From: Clark Moody <clark@clarkmoody.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 09:54:15 -0500
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This is the sort of thing I expect to emerge from the places that use
Bitcoin "on the street." We should be watching how local wallet software
displays bitcoin amounts, letting the standards write themselves over time.
The units debate (bits, millibits, etc) has been going on nearly as long as
I've known about Bitcoin and yet most tools display standard bitcoin
amounts (1 unit = 1e8 satoshi).


-Clark


On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 8:41 AM Martin Damgaard via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

> A very good point. I have realized the immature nature of my suggestion
> due to this and a number of other good remarks, and will like to retract
> the initial suggestion.
>
> Thank you and all the best
>
> Martin Damgaard
>
>
>
> *Fra: *Karl-Johan Alm <karljohan-alm@garage.co.jp>
> *Sendt: *12. september 2018 08:14
> *Til: *damgaard.martin@gmail.com; Bitcoin Protocol Discussion
> <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
> *Emne: *Re: [bitcoin-dev] Suggestion for a universal bitcoin value scale
>
>
>
> A potential problem is that it would be a new attack vector to simply
>
> color something to appear as e.g. 10x more than it really is, if
>
> everyone started using this system.
>
> On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 5:27 AM Martin Damgaard via bitcoin-dev
>
> <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Hi bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org
>
> >
>
> > Here is my humble attempt to make a contribution to the impressive work
> that you all are doing.
>
> >
>
> > I am unfamiliar with the normal BIP procedures. I have therefore just
> tried to follow the example of BIP 176 by Jimmy Song, in order make
> something similar. I suggest a universal bitcoin value color scale, for
> tackling the same decimal problem, as identified by the BIP 176 proposal.
>
> >
>
> > I have attached the document in three different formats (*.rtf, *.pdf
> and *.docx) as I do not know your preferred format. I hope you will find my
> suggestion useful.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Thank you and all the best
>
> >
>
> > Martin Damgaard
>
> >
>
> > _______________________________________________
>
> > bitcoin-dev mailing list
>
> > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org
>
> > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> bitcoin-dev mailing list
> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org
> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:tahoma,s=
ans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">This is the sort of thing I exp=
ect to emerge from the places that use Bitcoin &quot;on the street.&quot; W=
e should be watching how local wallet software displays bitcoin amounts, le=
tting the standards write themselves over time. The units debate (bits, mil=
libits, etc) has been going on nearly as long as I&#39;ve known about Bitco=
in and yet most tools display standard bitcoin amounts (1 unit =3D 1e8 sato=
shi).</div><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"m_7141132018664942037gmail_signat=
ure"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>-Clark</div><div></div></div></div>=
<br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Sep 12, 2=
018 at 8:41 AM Martin Damgaard via bitcoin-dev &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoi=
n-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxf=
oundation.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div l=
ang=3D"DA" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"#954F72"><div class=3D"m_7141132018664942=
037m_164697652000352664WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US">A very good point. I have realized the immature nature of my suggesti=
on due to this and a number of other good remarks, and will like to retract=
 the initial suggestion.</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"> =C2=A0</span></p><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal">Thank you and all the best </p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Mar=
tin Damgaard</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div style=
=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"border:none;padding:0cm"><b>Fra: </b><a href=
=3D"mailto:karljohan-alm@garage.co.jp" target=3D"_blank">Karl-Johan Alm</a>=
<br><b>Sendt: </b>12. september 2018 08:14<br><b>Til: </b><a href=3D"mailto=
:damgaard.martin@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">damgaard.martin@gmail.com</a>=
; <a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank=
">Bitcoin Protocol Discussion</a><br><b>Emne: </b>Re: [bitcoin-dev] Suggest=
ion for a universal bitcoin value scale</p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u>=
</u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">A potential problem is that it =
would be a new attack vector to simply</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">color some=
thing to appear as e.g. 10x more than it really is, if</p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal">everyone started using this system.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Sun,=
 Aug 19, 2018 at 5:27 AM Martin Damgaard via bitcoin-dev</p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=
=3D"_blank">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>&gt; wrote:</p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal">&gt;<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&gt; Hi =
<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">=
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&gt;<u>=
</u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&gt; Here is my humble attempt =
to make a contribution to the impressive work that you all are doing.</p><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal">&gt;<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&gt=
; I am unfamiliar with the normal BIP procedures. I have therefore just tri=
ed to follow the example of BIP 176 by Jimmy Song, in order make something =
similar. I suggest a universal bitcoin value color scale, for tackling the =
same decimal problem, as identified by the BIP 176 proposal.</p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">&gt;<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&gt; I have =
attached the document in three different formats (*.rtf, *.pdf and *.docx) =
as I do not know your preferred format. I hope you will find my suggestion =
useful.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&gt;<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal">&gt;<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&gt;<u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&gt; Thank you and all the best</p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">&gt;<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&gt;=
 Martin Damgaard</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&gt;<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal">&gt; _______________________________________________</p>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&gt; bitcoin-dev mailing list</p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al">&gt; <a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D=
"_blank">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
">&gt; <a href=3D"https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoi=
n-dev" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo=
/bitcoin-dev</a></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div></=
div>_______________________________________________<br>
bitcoin-dev mailing list<br>
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bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a><br>
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rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mail=
man/listinfo/bitcoin-dev</a><br>
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