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Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52410 helo=s110.servername.online) by s110.servername.online with esmtpa (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from <damian@willtech.com.au>) id 1nN3xo-009rlM-HS; Wed, 23 Feb 2022 18:34:40 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2022 13:34:39 +1100 From: damian@willtech.com.au To: Casey Rodarmor <casey@rodarmor.com> In-Reply-To: <CANLPe+Nc6ehatESSuS5jFXU-wammBSOe5GRjn45n8BAr90TPOg@mail.gmail.com> References: <CANLPe+OZ33vcZheOyo2RdrvWzQvj3RzZc6sHTafGwbqEG2G4pA@mail.gmail.com> <0642a5e59464779569f9d0aab452ee27@willtech.com.au> <96471a093e3c3d9862c3d47ebe731df6@willtech.com.au> <CANLPe+Nc6ehatESSuS5jFXU-wammBSOe5GRjn45n8BAr90TPOg@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.4.12 Message-ID: <a54b2632d9b20f9330cf129706f5c886@willtech.com.au> X-Sender: damian@willtech.com.au Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-AuthUser: damian@willtech.com.au X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 24 Feb 2022 08:15:13 +0000 Cc: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Draft-BIP: Ordinal Numbers X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev.lists.linuxfoundation.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/options/bitcoin-dev>, <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/> List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev>, <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2022 02:34:45 -0000 Not all people who have been stolen from believe that they have lost the right and title to what has been stolen and in many cases they have not. I do not excuse Bitcoin that it is impossible to have any individual Bitcoin identified but also I do not care, if I receive Bitcoin honestly I do not care what their history was. What if they were taken from a brothel? It is not a matter for an ordinal to determine if a satoshi is fungible. It is truth in effect that each satoshi is newly created to the new UTXO and the old satoshi destroyed. -DA. On 2022-02-23 18:31, Casey Rodarmor wrote: >> The least reasonable thing I could expect is some claimed former >> holder of some ordianls turning up to challenge me that it was their >> stolen Bitcoin was some of what I received. > > I think it's unlikely that this would come to pass. A previous owner > of an ordinal wouldn't have any particular reason to expect that they > should own it after they transfer it. Similar to how noting a dollar > bill's serial number doesn't give you a claim to it after you spend > it. From the BIP: > >> Since any ordinal can be sent to any address at any time, >> ordinals that are transferred, even those with some public history, >> should be considered to be fungible with other satoshis with no such >> history. [1] > > > > Links: > ------ > [1] > https://github.com/casey/ord/blob/master/bip.mediawiki#backward-compatibility