Received: from sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.192] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-3.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1YQk0H-0001KC-Be for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 25 Feb 2015 22:00:25 +0000 Received: from mailhub130.itcs.purdue.edu ([128.210.5.130]) by sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) id 1YQk0C-0005FD-TV for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 25 Feb 2015 22:00:25 +0000 Received: from [10.184.196.185] (pal-nat184-196-185.itap.purdue.edu [10.184.196.185]) (authenticated bits=0) by mailhub130.itcs.purdue.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4/mta-auth.smtp.purdue.edu) with ESMTP id t1PM0DC4010681 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Wed, 25 Feb 2015 17:00:14 -0500 Message-ID: <54EE459B.1090301@purdue.edu> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 16:58:51 -0500 From: Andrew Lapp User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/31.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pagecr@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 6.0.2.2308539 X-PerlMx-URL-Scanned: Yes X-PerlMx-Virus-Scanned: Yes X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain X-Headers-End: 1YQk0C-0005FD-TV Cc: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Request for comments on hybrid, PoW/PoS enhancement for Bitcoin X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 22:00:25 -0000 Having stakeholders "endorse" blocks has, according to you, the benefits of increasing the number of full nodes and making a 51% attack more expensive. It seems to me it would have the opposite effects and other negative side effects. Any stakeholder that has "won" could just be running an SPV client and be informed by a full node that they have won, then cooperate to collect the reward. You are mistaking proof of stake as a proof you are running a full node. At the same time, the network becomes cheaper to attack in proportion to the amount of the block reward that is paid to "endorsers". Another side effect is that miners would have a bigger economy of scale. The more stake a miner has, the more they can "endorse" their own blocks and not others blocks. I recommend reading this: https://download.wpsoftware.net/bitcoin/pos.pdf -Andrew Lapp