Received: from sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.192] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-4.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1YJUWB-0006FV-9W for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Thu, 05 Feb 2015 22:03:23 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of airbitz.co designates 74.125.82.41 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.41; envelope-from=paul@airbitz.co; helo=mail-wg0-f41.google.com; Received: from mail-wg0-f41.google.com ([74.125.82.41]) by sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1YJUW9-0007DO-QJ for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Thu, 05 Feb 2015 22:03:23 +0000 Received: by mail-wg0-f41.google.com with SMTP id a1so10146950wgh.0 for ; Thu, 05 Feb 2015 14:03:15 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=Vzrfn0BUCI5rgzrDfBuVQW2aUnoK2ijwBvxp4AjsbnE=; b=kRQiQMLuekC3cLp7bMbyiN3K2UF8ZQ9RonQrWQVfgPHhBAjWD6tbF8UBRw+WwsViPy Gj6fVs9UFGgxf46dEUgY3MsGl0S8fPsRlOuL3Axd7Rh0J4TNZTt3fnvIzkiTHIhZIYoR KK8dqLp9lujjUs131l1brvo7qdovt+LnpA9+1NLiN2q6bTDvVIwJjVZzZrseiSmhtnpw G/NlfuaoJWNwajtCJHv9sVv/rBQh1pUqeD862WlWytYxtizqzvjD0qt/BLQVEyFaHZBm Zd5NSehbxGDanDulNjajt749DzaRsKw0zUIokgux3bHEcfUdzdeWobcpNoF/pX0ZH30n EkHQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnfpUkxOfdLtiOTRYX/d0o+W1X9A7kAYTQcCG44qy5Q72cRn2fMJXv2O27Nzea0+B/W0YMw X-Received: by 10.180.84.162 with SMTP id a2mr694518wiz.47.1423173795789; Thu, 05 Feb 2015 14:03:15 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.37.137 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Feb 2015 14:02:54 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [166.170.38.32] In-Reply-To: <279489A5-1E46-48A2-8F58-1A25821D4D96@gmail.com> References: <54D3D636.1030308@voskuil.org> <279489A5-1E46-48A2-8F58-1A25821D4D96@gmail.com> From: Paul Puey Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 14:02:54 -0800 Message-ID: To: Brian Hoffman Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d044271948d5256050e5e7851 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature 0.0 T_REMOTE_IMAGE Message contains an external image X-Headers-End: 1YJUW9-0007DO-QJ Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposal for P2P Wireless (Bluetooth LE) transfer of Payment URI X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2015 22:03:23 -0000 --f46d044271948d5256050e5e7851 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 The implementation on Airbitz does not encourage or even let a user broadcast a photo. Just an address prefix and "name/handle". And it's only broadcast during the Receive request. Not generally while the app is running although that's up to the implementation. [image: logo] *Paul Puey* CEO / Co-Founder, Airbitz Inc +1-619-850-8624 | http://airbitz.co | San Diego *DOWNLOAD THE AIRBITZ WALLET:* On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Brian Hoffman wrote: > This sounds horrible. You could basically monitor anyone with a wallet in > a highly populated area and track them super easily by doing facial > recognition. Yes you could photograph people but it's way more burdensome. > Sorry to go off topic a little. > > > On Feb 5, 2015, at 3:50 PM, Mike Hearn wrote: > > I'm imagining myself walking around broadcasting my photo and MAC >> address while hucksters push payment requests to me for approval > > > I hate to break it to you, but you broadcast a photo of your face every > time you walk outside ;) > > Bluetooth MAC addresses are random, they aren't useful identifiers. If > someone can see you, a face is a far more uniquely identifying thing than a > MAC. > > "Payment spam" might be a problem. I can imagine a wallet requiring that > such requests are signed and then spammers can be blacklisted in the usual > fashion so they can't push things to your phone anymore. Anyway, a hurdle > that can be jumped if/when it becomes an issue. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, > sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is > your > hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought > leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. 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The implementation on Airbitz does not encourage or even l= et a user broadcast a photo. Just an address prefix and "name/handle&q= uot;. And it's only broadcast during the Receive request. Not generally= while the app is running although that's up to the implementation.

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On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Brian Hoffma= n <brianchoffman@gmail.com> wrote:
This sounds horrible. You could bas= ically monitor anyone with a wallet in a highly populated area and track th= em super easily by doing facial recognition. Yes you could photograph peopl= e but it's way more burdensome. Sorry to go off topic a little.


On Feb 5, 2015, at 3:50 PM, Mike Hearn <= ;mike@plan99.net&g= t; wrote:

I'm imagining myself walking around broadcasting my photo and MAC=
address while hucksters push payment requests to me for approval

I hate to break it to you, but you broadcast a photo = of your face every time you walk outside ;)

Blueto= oth MAC addresses are random, they aren't useful identifiers. If someon= e can see you, a face is a far more uniquely identifying thing than a MAC.<= /div>

"Payment spam" might be a problem. I can= imagine a wallet requiring that such requests are signed and then spammers= can be blacklisted in the usual fashion so they can't push things to y= our phone anymore. Anyway, a hurdle that can be jumped if/when it becomes a= n issue.
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