Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 859D8268 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2015 14:52:43 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from pmx.vmail.no (pmx.vmail.no [193.75.16.11]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A75B1D9 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2015 14:52:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pmx.vmail.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pmx.isp.as2116.net) with SMTP id 810C421E27 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2015 16:52:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp.bluecom.no (smtp.bluecom.no [193.75.75.28]) by pmx.vmail.no (pmx.isp.as2116.net) with ESMTP id 504B3205F0 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2015 16:52:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from coldstorage.localnet (unknown [81.191.185.32]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.bluecom.no (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 41CF192 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2015 16:52:40 +0200 (CEST) From: Thomas Zander To: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 16:52:40 +0200 Message-ID: <2905605.OvbZMWuhGy@coldstorage> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.1 (Linux/3.16.0-4-amd64; KDE/4.14.2; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <1B7F00D3-41AE-44BF-818D-EC4EF279DC11@gmail.com> <55B9EB68.9020703@mail.bihthai.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Why Satoshi's temporary anti-spam measure isn'ttemporary X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 14:52:43 -0000 On Thursday 30. July 2015 11.38.00 Jorge Tim=F3n via bitcoin-dev wrote:= > It is important ro note that even if lightning was never developed, t= he > block size remains at 1 MB forever and fees rise to 10 usd per transa= ction, > such "high fees" are still extremely competitive with non-decentraliz= ed > payment systems that have proportional fees. What makes you think that when there is such a low availability of tran= saction=20 space that paying to be included costs you $10, that Bitcoin is not goi= ng to=20 be outcompeted and replaced or otherwise regarded as worthless? --=20 Thomas Zander