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From: Eric Lombrozo <elombrozo@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <CA+w+GKT7t5OahS-+P=QAmOyFzPnOs4J6KSo+mhSrC0YggmMupg@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 14:32:10 -0700
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To: Mike Hearn <hearn@vinumeris.com>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin XT 0.11A
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You deeply disappoint me, Mike.

Not only do you misrepresent many cogent, well thought out positions =
from a great number of people who have published and posted a number of =
articles detailing an explaining in-depth technical concerns=E2=80=A6you =
also seem to fancy yourself more capable of reading into the intentions =
of someone who disappeared from the scene years ago, before we even were =
fully aware of many things we now know that bring the original =
=E2=80=9Cplan=E2=80=9D into question.

I ask of you, as a civilized human being, to stop doing this divisive =
crap. Despite your protestations to the contrary, YOU are the one who is =
proposing a radical departure from the direction of the project. Also, =
as several of us have clearly stated before, equating the fork of an =
open source project with a fork of a cryptoledger is completely bogus - =
there=E2=80=99s a lot of other people=E2=80=99s money at stake. This =
isn=E2=80=99t a democracy - consensus is all or nothing. The fact that a =
good number of the people most intimately familiar with the inner =
workings of Satoshi=E2=80=99s invention do not believe doing this is a =
good idea should give you pause.

Please stop using Bitcoin as your own political football=E2=80=A6for the =
sake of Bitcoin=E2=80=A6and for your own sake. Despite your obvious =
technical abilities (and I sincerely do believe you have them) you are =
discrediting yourself and hurting your own reputation.


- Eric

> On Aug 15, 2015, at 10:02 AM, Mike Hearn via bitcoin-dev =
<bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org =
<mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>> wrote:
>=20
> Hello,
>=20
> As promised, we have released Bitcoin XT 0.11A which includes the =
bigger blocks patch set. You can get it from
>=20
>      https://bitcoinxt.software/ <https://bitcoinxt.software/>
>=20
> I feel sad that it's come to this, but there is no other way. The =
Bitcoin Core project has drifted so far from the principles myself and =
many others feel are important, that a fork is the only way to fix =
things.
>=20
> Forking is a natural thing in the open source community, Bitcoin is =
not the first and won't be the last project to go through this. Often in =
forks, people say there was insufficient communication. So to ensure =
everything is crystal clear I've written a blog post and a kind of =
"manifesto" to describe why this is happening and how XT plans to be =
different from Core (assuming adoption, of course).
>=20
> The article is here:
>=20
>     https://medium.com/@octskyward/why-is-bitcoin-forking-d647312d22c1 =
<https://medium.com/@octskyward/why-is-bitcoin-forking-d647312d22c1>
>=20
> It makes no attempt to be neutral: this explains things from our point =
of view.
>=20
> The manifesto is on the website.
>=20
> I say to all developers on this list: if you also feel that Core is no =
longer serving the interests of Bitcoin users, come join us. We don't =
bite.
>=20
> _______________________________________________
> bitcoin-dev mailing list
> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org =
<mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev


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class=3D""><div class=3D"">You deeply disappoint me, Mike.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Not only do you =
misrepresent many cogent, well thought out positions from a great number =
of people who have published and posted a number of articles detailing =
an explaining in-depth technical concerns=E2=80=A6you also seem to fancy =
yourself more capable of reading into the intentions of someone who =
disappeared from the scene years ago, before we even were fully aware of =
many things we now know that bring the original =E2=80=9Cplan=E2=80=9D =
into question.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I=
 ask of you, as a civilized human being, to stop doing this divisive =
crap. Despite your protestations to the contrary, YOU are the one who is =
proposing a radical departure from the direction of the project. Also, =
as several of us have clearly stated before, equating the fork of an =
open source project with a fork of a cryptoledger is completely bogus - =
there=E2=80=99s a lot of other people=E2=80=99s money at stake. This =
isn=E2=80=99t a democracy - consensus is all or nothing. The fact that a =
good number of the people most intimately familiar with the inner =
workings of Satoshi=E2=80=99s invention do not believe doing this is a =
good idea should give you pause.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Please stop using Bitcoin as your own =
political football=E2=80=A6for the sake of Bitcoin=E2=80=A6and for your =
own sake. Despite your obvious technical abilities (and I sincerely do =
believe you have them) you are discrediting yourself and hurting your =
own reputation.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">- Eric</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Aug =
15, 2015, at 10:02 AM, Mike Hearn via bitcoin-dev &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" =
class=3D"">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"">Hello,<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">As =
promised, we have released Bitcoin XT 0.11A which includes the bigger =
blocks patch set. You can get it from</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://bitcoinxt.software/" =
class=3D"">https://bitcoinxt.software/</a><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I feel sad that it's =
come to this, but there is no other way. The Bitcoin Core project has =
drifted so far from the principles myself and many others feel are =
important, that a fork is the only way to fix things.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Forking is a natural =
thing in the open source community, Bitcoin is not the first and won't =
be the last project to go through this. Often in forks, people say there =
was insufficient communication. So to ensure everything is crystal clear =
I've written a blog post and a kind of "manifesto" to describe why this =
is happening and how XT plans to be different from Core (assuming =
adoption, of course).</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">The article is here:</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; <a =
href=3D"https://medium.com/@octskyward/why-is-bitcoin-forking-d647312d22c1=
" =
class=3D"">https://medium.com/@octskyward/why-is-bitcoin-forking-d647312d2=
2c1</a><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">It makes no attempt to be neutral: this explains things from =
our point of view.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">The manifesto is on the website.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I say to all developers on this list: =
if you also feel that Core is no longer serving the interests of Bitcoin =
users, come join us. We don't bite.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div></div>
_______________________________________________<br class=3D"">bitcoin-dev =
mailing list<br class=3D""><a =
href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" =
class=3D"">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a><br class=3D""><a =
href=3D"https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev" =
class=3D"">https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev<=
/a><br class=3D""></div></blockquote></div><br =
class=3D""></div></body></html>=

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