Received: from sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.191] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-4.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TfU44-0004Vc-9K for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 03 Dec 2012 11:19:56 +0000 X-ACL-Warn: Received: from 2508ds5-oebr.1.fullrate.dk ([90.184.5.129] helo=mail.ceptacle.com) by sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) id 1TfU41-00046S-29 for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 03 Dec 2012 11:19:56 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceptacle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE429270DB75 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 12:19:44 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceptacle.com Received: from mail.ceptacle.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server.ceptacle.private [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3KLN88s+gZXD for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 12:19:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from [109.105.106.201] (unknown [109.105.106.201]) by mail.ceptacle.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B2600270DB68 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 12:19:44 +0100 (CET) From: Michael Gronager Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <80648682-E34A-455E-B34A-6BC24652C3EA@ceptacle.com> Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 12:19:37 +0100 To: Bitcoin Dev Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. X-Headers-End: 1TfU41-00046S-29 Subject: [Bitcoin-development] Chain dust mitigation: Demurrage based Chain Vacuuming X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2012 11:19:56 -0000 (Also posted on the forum: = https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3D128900.0) The amount of "dust" in the block chain is getting large and it is = growing all the time. Currently 11% of unspent tx outputs (UTXO) are of = 1Satoshi (0.00000001BTC), 32% is less than 0.0001BTC and 60% is less = than 0.001BTC. (Thanks to Jan for digging out these numbers!) This means that a huge part of the block chain is used for essentially = nothing - e.g. the sum of the 11% is worth roughly 2 US cents ! The main source for these 1 Satoshi payouts is Sahtoshi Dice. And = nothing wrong with that, however, we should work on ensuring that too = many too small payments will not kill the size of the blockchain in the = end - further, they are essentially too small to be included in other = transaction as the added fee will often make it more expensive to remove = them. Hence, there is no incentive to get rid of them. I have an idea for a possible mitigation of this problem - introduction = of demurrage - not as in it normal meaning as a percentage over time = (see:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demurrage_(currency) btw, this has = also been tried in freicoin), but as a mean to recycle pennies over = time. The proposal is simple - UTXOs age out if not re-transacted - the = smaller the coin the faster the aging: 1-99 Satoshi: lives for 210 blocks 100-9999 Satoshi: lives for 2100 blocks 10000-999999 Satoshi: lives for 21000 blocks 1000000-99999999 Satoshi: lives for 210000 blocks Only amounts above 1BTC lives forever - (or we could even impose aging = on those too..) The aged coins are simply included in the block mining reward, creating = another incentive for miners. Further, if we include all coins in this = recycle scheme coins will never be lost forever.=20 This scheme will impose some lifetimes also on e.g. colored coins (hence = you need to use a certain amount to borrow space on the blockchain for = the time needed, or simply transact them). If you like this I would be happy to write it into a BIP. Thoughts ?=