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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Very true, if Moore's law is still functional in 200 years, computers wil= l > be 2^100 times faster (possibly more if quantum computing becomes > commonplace), and so old wallets may be easily cracked. > > We will need a way to force people to use newer, higher security wallets, > and turning coins to mining rewards is better solution than them just bei= ng > hacked. Even in such an event, my personal view is the bitcoin owner should have th= e freedom to choose upgrade to secure his/her coins or to leave the door open for the first hacker to assume the coins - yet the bitcoin network that he/she trusts should not act like a hacker to assume his/her coins. daniel --_000_CY4PR1001MB2342A41F54C2309F2B130B1D85840CY4PR1001MB2342_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> Very true, if Moore's law is = still functional in 200 years, computers will

> be 2^100 times faster (possibly more if = quantum computing becomes
> commonplace), and so old wallets may be easily cracked.
>
> We will need a way to force people to use newer, higher security = wallets,
> and turning coins to mining rewards is better solution than them = just being
> hacked.

Even in such an event, my personal view is th= e bitcoin owner should have the 
freedom to choose upgrade to secure his/her&nbs= p;coins or to leave the d= oor 
open for hacker to assume the coins - yet the bitcoin network&nb= sp;
that he/she trust= s should not act like a hacker to assume his/her coins. 

daniel 


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