Return-Path: Received: from smtp4.osuosl.org (smtp4.osuosl.org [140.211.166.137]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5E94C000A for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2021 15:25:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 964804184F for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2021 15:25:27 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: smtp4.osuosl.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=voskuil-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from smtp4.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp4.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MfRecp1uWGqo for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2021 15:25:23 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.8.0 Received: from mail-pj1-x1030.google.com (mail-pj1-x1030.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::1030]) by smtp4.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BAC004184E for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2021 15:25:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pj1-x1030.google.com with SMTP id kk2-20020a17090b4a02b02900c777aa746fso1505591pjb.3 for ; Wed, 07 Apr 2021 08:25:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=voskuil-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :thread-index:content-language; bh=3nzdyFqdWbjVtnyzEgiiEqPtEkT+tYE/RHndg0jCKFA=; b=MDJ4kb+dg3ZZ2/uvM231+rh24oA3JT1hEKxuit/5vdxPx7+5EeK0GkVDzX7uzzNHWP +DBjjGx3b1XhrFGWSWwNErtGgOymt5wZToyVCYsGEBpVo+FRvUS1wH0ERGbMQO5vc7bQ xV/ss2JNr/APyycsFtq30xOGHgxBYOG8hy+jyOkC7X41X+wBz533YgX85IxwGDrwLrq/ YRNqBj+mVT6kYNqQps9KsaErLVRA2GuzL1eLn3Wo17WDv0vSITNLK//kcBUDPi9yW1Nr Ee+otJHnD5XOeFNyZABdBFOKAFlfjLqE9snbUilDtZ/gyXCB3WQQ6C+ghvmjwsvDgD1x KloQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date :message-id:mime-version:thread-index:content-language; bh=3nzdyFqdWbjVtnyzEgiiEqPtEkT+tYE/RHndg0jCKFA=; b=lm9rM/5goPxN4uTdBUJwArFN3++h1nI3xJm3R8/QdVrg1w42dlWUCRH1cpSoudrdU4 Qa4d5HjsMWdjEBGPnoJEvbGWjxo8ICCk2lCJb3ugmVCgSzaGnZDMQ6olWhqlzt371jcr HCOGbITgdyZD/wNegogbHpFLX1KJryWhqmYJsodk2Wb0EgxfUqGHiWSZf9oGPY1kOM5I e0Q857VBGAoog9doc0Pbi0KOier96WWwh/j8gGJxqjxlentsigKe5X8kKTHazSspTeOo TjmPUSVPY7obV5y1N4noNMQ5iR4PSEM2vOArgcH368BCMOOdGEet9lL5Uah7fCd+2kYw JFLQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533s5fOSXd1jk0pltXj0VYuGvbn+A8SXoezWm9Ge08p/uX4UVUHE yrhJ48dEOCs/2c4nFu58ngf2FQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxBFPfzW9iPS644oS6+oUzQ0mvPapitVXq3LPoA552opNCaEJ4oAJzegMhw59otUa7jO+VuUQ== X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:43a4:: with SMTP id r33mr3777859pjg.119.1617809123094; Wed, 07 Apr 2021 08:25:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ERICDESKTOP ([2601:600:9c00:1d0::fb2]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d17sm21174365pfn.60.2021.04.07.08.25.22 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 07 Apr 2021 08:25:22 -0700 (PDT) From: To: "'Claus Ehrenberg'" , "'Bitcoin Protocol Discussion'" References: <874kgkkpji.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> <87pmz6it7q.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2021 08:25:22 -0700 Message-ID: <0a4c01d72bc2$39ff9560$adfec020$@voskuil.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0A4D_01D72B87.8DA32E60" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQJzPe3qKuVrNaRG1VQLu7l2ZCNK/AJMPCRMAVGGpXUBfKOcdQGAVwEcqTwydlA= Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] March 23rd 2021 Taproot Activation Meeting Notes X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2021 15:25:27 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0A4D_01D72B87.8DA32E60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You may activate any time you want. =20 e =20 From: bitcoin-dev On = Behalf Of Claus Ehrenberg via bitcoin-dev Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 6:42 AM To: Rusty Russell ; Bitcoin Protocol Discussion = Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] March 23rd 2021 Taproot Activation Meeting = Notes =20 As a user, I think it's very important for me to know if Taproot is = eventually coming or not. So why not make it so that if _either_ miners = _or_ users decide for Taproot, it will activate no matter what. = Accepting a chain split is imo the fairest way to 'resolve the conflict' = (it can't be resolved anyway). =20 That would probably mean running ST and and UASF concurrently. =20 The upside would be that we've got a safe date for Taproot, except = neither users nor miners want it. =20 Cheers, Claus ------=_NextPart_000_0A4D_01D72B87.8DA32E60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

You may activate any time you = want.

 

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From: bitcoin-dev = <bitcoin-dev-bounces@lists.linuxfoundation.org> On Behalf Of = Claus Ehrenberg via bitcoin-dev
Sent: Wednesday, April 7, = 2021 6:42 AM
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>; = Bitcoin Protocol Discussion = <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: = [bitcoin-dev] March 23rd 2021 Taproot Activation Meeting = Notes

 

As a = user, I think it's very important for me to know if Taproot is = eventually coming or not. So why not make it so that if _either_ miners = _or_ users decide for Taproot, it will activate no matter what. = Accepting a chain split is imo the fairest way to 'resolve the conflict' = (it can't be resolved anyway).

 

That would probably mean running ST and and UASF = concurrently.

 

The upside would be that we've got a safe date for = Taproot, except neither users nor miners want = it.

 

Cheers,

Claus

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