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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My mistake, apologies all. - I honestly thought everyone just took the next available number and publ= ished up their BIP's. And, I see you have something of a master list. As a suggestion, would it be worth considering linking to some of that info= rmation in the list welcome email? Web search is not always your friend for= locating everything relevant. Regards, Damian Williamson ________________________________ From: Luke Dashjr Sent: Sunday, 24 December 2017 6:21:24 PM To: Damian Williamson Cc: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP 177: UTPFOTIB - Use Transaction Priority For= Ordering Transactions In Blocks BIP 177 is NOT assigned. Do not self-assign BIP numbers! Please read BIP 2: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0002.mediawiki [https://avatars0.githubusercontent.com/u/528860?s=3D400&v=3D4] bips/bip-0002.mediawiki at master =B7 bitcoin/bips =B7 GitHub github.com Abstract. A Bitcoin Improvement Proposal (BIP) is a design document providi= ng information to the Bitcoin community, or describing a new feature for Bi= tcoin or its ... Luke On Sunday 24 December 2017 2:57:38 AM Damian Williamson via bitcoin-dev wro= te: > BIP 177: UTPFOTIB - Use Transaction Priority For Ordering Transactions In > Blocks > > > This BIP proposes to address the issue of transactional reliability in > Bitcoin, where valid transactions may be stuck in the mempool for extende= d > periods. > > > There are two key issues to be resolved: > > > 1. The current transaction bandwidth limit. > 2. The current ad-hoc methods of including transactions in blocks > resulting in variable and confusing confirmation times for valid > transactions, including transactions with a valid fee that may never > confirm. > > > It is important with any change to protect the value of fees as these wil= l > eventually be the only payment that miners receive. Rather than an auctio= n > model for limited bandwidth, the proposal results in a stable fee for > priority service auction model. > > > I will post the full proposal up on to my blog in the coming days and, > re-review incorporating feedback that I have received on and off thread. > It would not be true to suggest that all feedback received has been > entirely positive although, most of it has been constructive. > > > The previous threads for this BIP are available here: > > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2017-December/sub= je > ct.html > > > Regards, > > Damian Williamson --_000_PS2P216MB01796F03E182D783210DFF2B9D000PS2P216MB0179KORP_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

My mistake, apologies all.


 - I honestly thought everyo= ne just took the next available number and published up their BIP's.


And, I see you have something of = a master list.


As a suggestion, would it be wort= h considering linking to some of that information in the list welcome email= ? Web search is not always your friend for locating everything relevant.


Regards,

Damian Williamson

From: Luke Dashjr <luk= e@dashjr.org>
Sent: Sunday, 24 December 2017 6:21:24 PM
To: Damian Williamson
Cc: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP 177: UTPFOTIB - Use Transaction Prior= ity For Ordering Transactions In Blocks
 
BIP 177 is NOT assigned. Do not self-assign BIP nu= mbers!

Please read BIP 2:

    https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0002.mediawiki
=
github.com
Abstract. A Bitcoin Improvement Proposal (BIP) is a design document providi= ng information to the Bitcoin community, or describing a new feature for Bi= tcoin or its ...


Luke


On Sunday 24 December 2017 2:57:38 AM Damian Williamson via bitcoin-dev wro= te:
> BIP 177: UTPFOTIB - Use Transaction Priority For Ordering Transactions= In
> Blocks
>
>
> This BIP proposes to address the issue of transactional reliability in=
> Bitcoin, where valid transactions may be stuck in the mempool for exte= nded
> periods.
>
>
> There are two key issues to be resolved:
>
>
>   1.  The current transaction bandwidth limit.
>   2.  The current ad-hoc methods of including transacti= ons in blocks
> resulting in variable and confusing confirmation times for valid
> transactions, including transactions with a valid fee that may never > confirm.
>
>
> It is important with any change to protect the value of fees as these = will
> eventually be the only payment that miners receive. Rather than an auc= tion
> model for limited bandwidth, the proposal results in a stable fee for<= br> > priority service auction model.
>
>
> I will post the full proposal up on to my blog in the coming days and,=
> re-review incorporating feedback that I have received on and off threa= d.
> It would not be true to suggest that all feedback received has been > entirely positive although, most of it has been constructive.
>
>
> The previous threads for this BIP are available here:
>
> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2017-December/subje=
> ct.html
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Damian Williamson
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